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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Mar 2, 16, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160 taxes one way [of these YR=98] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) 580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - 49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - 25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) 231.74 + 20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92 (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54 online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30 online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197 online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - 43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67 online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - 12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60 online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60 online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00 (YQ) + 60.99 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82 (YQ) + 15.97 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23 online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Apr 12, 13, 3:25 am
  #181  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Anyone have experience redeeming intra europe?

Which European carriers have lower surcharges?

I was just on the phone with Aegean and priced out a BCN-IST-TLV roundtrip with Turkish and the taxes came to 255 euros...

Edit: the same revenue ticket booked on Turkish.com comes to 296.
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Old Apr 14, 13, 2:11 pm
  #182  
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Originally Posted by killuminati
Anyone have experience redeeming intra europe?

Which European carriers have lower surcharges?

I was just on the phone with Aegean and priced out a BCN-IST-TLV roundtrip with Turkish and the taxes came to 255 euros...

Edit: the same revenue ticket booked on Turkish.com comes to 296.
You can see the YQ when you search for your flights on ITA Matrix.
Basically your A3 points will just cover the base fare.

LO generally has lower YQ intra Europe than the others, as does *shockingly* A3

BCN-ATH-TLV has only about €45 in taxes+surcharges each way

Others for comparison for one-way itineraries:
TP via LIS: €125
LX via ZRH/GVA: €117
LH via MUC/FRA: €121
LO via WAW: €78
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Old Apr 14, 13, 11:35 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
You can see the YQ when you search for your flights on ITA Matrix.
Basically your A3 points will just cover the base fare.

LO generally has lower YQ intra Europe than the others, as does *shockingly* A3

BCN-ATH-TLV has only about 45 in taxes+surcharges each way

Others for comparison for one-way itineraries:
TP via LIS: 125
LX via ZRH/GVA: 117
LH via MUC/FRA: 121
LO via WAW: 78
You're right, A3 is significantly lower. TK ended up being the highest of all charging a mere 30 base fare.

Thanks for the help!^

I think Aeroplan had me trained to instinctively go for TK
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Old May 2, 13, 5:38 pm
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Booked a one way intra-europe. 12.5K miles
20 EUR service fee for booking, taxes match what I found on ITA

pretty painless except that I had to call 3 times - the first two times I was hung up on while on hold after 10 minutes (each time).
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Old May 3, 13, 7:25 am
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Redeemed one-way award in business class for TXL - IST.

Turkish Airlines had no availability, so asked Aegean to check Lufthansa Group airlines.

Managed to redeem for TXL-FRA-IST for 21K miles and 150 euro fee. Not exactly a particularly efficient use of miles, but was significantly better than buying the ticket outright.

Service was great, didn't take any time at all to make the booking.
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Old May 21, 13, 6:44 pm
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I tried booking a *A award ticket from YYZ to YVR on May 17. Miles got deducted, but got no confirmation e-mail so far nor was my card charged (May 21). Anyone had a problem like that with Aegean? I should probably call them again...
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Old May 21, 13, 8:25 pm
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Tried to redeem the following yesterday with my miles:

SQ638 from SIN to NRT
SQ11 from NRT to SIN

No problem for SQ638 but the operator on the phone told me that there were no availabilities at all for that specific day on *A for a NRT-SIN...

So I dropped the request and decided to take a look at it through my SQ KrisFlyer account. And there I managed to book the exact above itinerary.

I guess it shows again that airlines do keep some award seats for their own frequent flyers?
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Old May 22, 13, 5:07 am
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Nearly always. Pretty sure SQ is especially known for it.
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Old May 27, 13, 5:58 pm
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Have anybody successfully managed to book SQ Business Class (the regional i.e) using Aegean miles? I have found availability both on EF and Awardtravelr, so I'm wondering whether that same inventory may be available for A3 as well.
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Old May 28, 13, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by LH4116
Have anybody successfully managed to book SQ Business Class (the regional i.e) using Aegean miles? I have found availability both on EF and Awardtravelr, so I'm wondering whether that same inventory may be available for A3 as well.
success case on SIN-KIX SQ618/SQ619
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Old May 29, 13, 5:46 am
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I tried booking a ticket between Tokyo and Hong Kong today. Both ExpertFlyer, and Awardtravelr show plenty of awards on those dates, with both SQ and TG having seats open. I called A3 only to find that there were NO seats at all on the selected airlines. Only OZ and CA available. Is the availability really that bad for A3, or was I just having bad luck with the agent?
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Old May 29, 13, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by LH4116
I tried booking a ticket between Tokyo and Hong Kong today. Both ExpertFlyer, and Awardtravelr show plenty of awards on those dates, with both SQ and TG having seats open. I called A3 only to find that there were NO seats at all on the selected airlines. Only OZ and CA available. Is the availability really that bad for A3, or was I just having bad luck with the agent?
Routing via BKK or SIN is over MPM.
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Old May 29, 13, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Routing via BKK or SIN is over MPM.
Is this a newly enforced rule? A friend of mine recently booked the same routing via BKK. Otherwise is a HND-SIN-BKK award permitted?
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Old May 29, 13, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by LH4116
Is this a newly enforced rule? A friend of mine recently booked the same routing via BKK. Otherwise is a HND-SIN-BKK award permitted?
If the agent searches NRT-HKG, TG and SQ won't come up because of MPM. If the agent searches by segment (NRT-BKK, then BKK-HKG), they probably won't notice that MPM is exceeded. Giving the agent flight numbers instead of origin/destination might work - saying "I want to fly YY123 and then XX321" is more effective than "I want to fly ABC to DEF via GHI"
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Old May 29, 13, 7:01 am
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I see, thanks for the help! I will give it another try, and if not I guess I'll go back to the drawing board.
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