LCAH (ALL) / AFKL Flying Blue - enhanced partnership
Jun 29, 2019, 11:18 pm
#31
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Accor Plat, Htz PC, Natl ExEm, other random status
Posts: 2,876
True, although the principle still stands. And 1K gets you Bonvoy Gold, which is worthless (although perhaps better than LCAH Silver).
Jun 30, 2019, 8:36 am
#32
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
This tie-up is interesting for someone who's already flying AF regularly, but for anyone who's not, it looks like the promotion is useless.
What could have made it interesting for someone like me, who's deeply invested in *A (UA million-miler 1K), is if there had been some sort of encouragement to actually fly AF or another SkyTeam airline. For instance, Marriott and UA gives Marriott platinums Silver status, which while not terribly interesting, is enough to make someone who has no status on UA potentially look at them as their 2nd airline.
For instance, if you gave me (a newly minted Club Accor Platinum) FB Silver, AF would bump up to be my second choice in Europe and DL would be my second choice in the US and to Asia.
As it stands, I don't see any reason to bother signing-up. Am I missing anything?
What could have made it interesting for someone like me, who's deeply invested in *A (UA million-miler 1K), is if there had been some sort of encouragement to actually fly AF or another SkyTeam airline. For instance, Marriott and UA gives Marriott platinums Silver status, which while not terribly interesting, is enough to make someone who has no status on UA potentially look at them as their 2nd airline.
For instance, if you gave me (a newly minted Club Accor Platinum) FB Silver, AF would bump up to be my second choice in Europe and DL would be my second choice in the US and to Asia.
As it stands, I don't see any reason to bother signing-up. Am I missing anything?
Jun 30, 2019, 12:06 pm
#33
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Accor Plat, Htz PC, Natl ExEm, other random status
Posts: 2,876
What you're missing is the small benefit of being able to convert your FB points back into Accor points, albeit at a very poor conversion rate. However, the way I look at it, it's incremental to what I have today. So, I signed up for an FB account. I'll never fly with AF or any SkyTeam airlines most likely, so I'll just periodically take the free points and convert them back to Accor points. It's not much, but it's more than zero!
It seems like a poor money value of time to me just to play the arbitrage, though.
Jul 2, 2019, 8:00 pm
#34
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Taiwan
Programs: CX DM (OWE), Accor Gold
Posts: 379
I heard that this AFKL point promotion can not be combined with other point promotion.
In April, I registered the 4 times point promotion for staying in August below
https://www.accorhotels.com/leclub/p...2100660a180510
I already registered the AFKL one and now concern I will not get the 4 times one staying next month.
Does anyone share the experience?
In April, I registered the 4 times point promotion for staying in August below
https://www.accorhotels.com/leclub/p...2100660a180510
I already registered the AFKL one and now concern I will not get the 4 times one staying next month.
Does anyone share the experience?
Jul 3, 2019, 12:40 am
#35
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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The AFKLFB “deal” is not a promotion. It’s a permanent feature (until they decide eventually to stop one day) allowing you to earn LCAH points and FB miles for each stay/flight. So I don’t think there are any interference with Accor points promo. It would make no sense.
Jul 3, 2019, 1:55 pm
#40
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My last Accor stay has still not yet posted to my LCAH account 8 days after checkout... so obviously nothing also on the FB side.
And my last AF flights have correctly posted immediately to FB (as usual) but still nothing on the LCAH side.
Jul 3, 2019, 2:33 pm
#41
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: UK
Programs: Accor diamond
Posts: 169
I don't know but I am interested...
My last Accor stay has still not yet posted to my LCAH account 8 days after checkout... so obviously nothing also on the FB side.
And my last AF flights have correctly posted immediately to FB (as usual) but still nothing on the LCAH side.
My last Accor stay has still not yet posted to my LCAH account 8 days after checkout... so obviously nothing also on the FB side.
And my last AF flights have correctly posted immediately to FB (as usual) but still nothing on the LCAH side.
i might drop an email to customer services in a few days.
Jul 4, 2019, 8:12 am
#42
Company Representative, Accorhotels
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: France
Programs: ALL - Accor Live Limitless
Posts: 751
Dear Tris06,
Many thanks for your questions. As Le Club AccorHotels Concierge, I will be able to answer to you query about the stays eligible to Miles+Points. Regarding your questions about your flights with Air France KLM and your Elite Flying Blue benefits, I must say that I am not able to help. I advise you to direct your question to the Flying Blue Customer Service. I just wish to highlight that, as before in our previous partnership with Flying Blue, you have to convert your Reward points into miles from your Le Club AccorHotels online account. Your Reward points can't be used directly from your Le Club AccorHotels to pay for a flight. The scale applying ids still: 2000 Reward points = 1000 Flying Blue Miles. On the other hand, once you have associated both your loyalty accounts, you will be able to earn Miles directly on your Flying Blue account for your eligible stays credited after your registration to Miles+Points. The Miles earned are calculated based on the amount of eligible expenses credited for your stay. Eligible stays fully paid in Reward points will not generate any credit of points at Le Club AccorHotels and consequently no Flying Blue Miles. To receive Miles, your stay must be eligible to Le Club AccorHotels program's conditions and generate a credit of points on your account. Meaning that you have to book via one of our direct booking channels, choose a hotel participating in the program and an eligible rate and have a part of eligible expenses paid in cash.
Best regards,
Amy
Many thanks for your questions. As Le Club AccorHotels Concierge, I will be able to answer to you query about the stays eligible to Miles+Points. Regarding your questions about your flights with Air France KLM and your Elite Flying Blue benefits, I must say that I am not able to help. I advise you to direct your question to the Flying Blue Customer Service. I just wish to highlight that, as before in our previous partnership with Flying Blue, you have to convert your Reward points into miles from your Le Club AccorHotels online account. Your Reward points can't be used directly from your Le Club AccorHotels to pay for a flight. The scale applying ids still: 2000 Reward points = 1000 Flying Blue Miles. On the other hand, once you have associated both your loyalty accounts, you will be able to earn Miles directly on your Flying Blue account for your eligible stays credited after your registration to Miles+Points. The Miles earned are calculated based on the amount of eligible expenses credited for your stay. Eligible stays fully paid in Reward points will not generate any credit of points at Le Club AccorHotels and consequently no Flying Blue Miles. To receive Miles, your stay must be eligible to Le Club AccorHotels program's conditions and generate a credit of points on your account. Meaning that you have to book via one of our direct booking channels, choose a hotel participating in the program and an eligible rate and have a part of eligible expenses paid in cash.
Best regards,
Amy
Jul 4, 2019, 8:20 am
#43
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Italy
Programs: Accor Gold, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond , Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,484
On my first completed stay from LCAH/AFKL linked accounts I have received:
+1 credit night on Accor account
+5 XP on AFKL account
+137 miles on AFKL account
I think all have worked correctly
+1 credit night on Accor account
+5 XP on AFKL account
+137 miles on AFKL account
I think all have worked correctly
Jul 4, 2019, 1:03 pm
#44
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Dear Tris06,
Many thanks for your questions. As Le Club AccorHotels Concierge, I will be able to answer to you query about the stays eligible to Miles+Points. Regarding your questions about your flights with Air France KLM and your Elite Flying Blue benefits, I must say that I am not able to help. I advise you to direct your question to the Flying Blue Customer Service. I just wish to highlight that, as before in our previous partnership with Flying Blue, you have to convert your Reward points into miles from your Le Club AccorHotels online account. Your Reward points can't be used directly from your Le Club AccorHotels to pay for a flight. The scale applying ids still: 2000 Reward points = 1000 Flying Blue Miles. On the other hand, once you have associated both your loyalty accounts, you will be able to earn Miles directly on your Flying Blue account for your eligible stays credited after your registration to Miles+Points. The Miles earned are calculated based on the amount of eligible expenses credited for your stay. Eligible stays fully paid in Reward points will not generate any credit of points at Le Club AccorHotels and consequently no Flying Blue Miles. To receive Miles, your stay must be eligible to Le Club AccorHotels program's conditions and generate a credit of points on your account. Meaning that you have to book via one of our direct booking channels, choose a hotel participating in the program and an eligible rate and have a part of eligible expenses paid in cash.
Best regards,
Amy
Many thanks for your questions. As Le Club AccorHotels Concierge, I will be able to answer to you query about the stays eligible to Miles+Points. Regarding your questions about your flights with Air France KLM and your Elite Flying Blue benefits, I must say that I am not able to help. I advise you to direct your question to the Flying Blue Customer Service. I just wish to highlight that, as before in our previous partnership with Flying Blue, you have to convert your Reward points into miles from your Le Club AccorHotels online account. Your Reward points can't be used directly from your Le Club AccorHotels to pay for a flight. The scale applying ids still: 2000 Reward points = 1000 Flying Blue Miles. On the other hand, once you have associated both your loyalty accounts, you will be able to earn Miles directly on your Flying Blue account for your eligible stays credited after your registration to Miles+Points. The Miles earned are calculated based on the amount of eligible expenses credited for your stay. Eligible stays fully paid in Reward points will not generate any credit of points at Le Club AccorHotels and consequently no Flying Blue Miles. To receive Miles, your stay must be eligible to Le Club AccorHotels program's conditions and generate a credit of points on your account. Meaning that you have to book via one of our direct booking channels, choose a hotel participating in the program and an eligible rate and have a part of eligible expenses paid in cash.
Best regards,
Amy
would you mind to post here what is the process to follow to ask for a retro-credit when activity is not posted automatically and what kind of documentation is expected on both sides (Accor and FB) ? Thank you
Jul 4, 2019, 4:19 pm
#45
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: UK
Programs: Accor diamond
Posts: 169
Edit. Just checked when tris post was. 29th June. And response only comes in now,wow.