Never heard of Delano, SLS,house of originals or Mondrian. Where did they pick up these brands? Movenpick purchase? They seem mostly US based.
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Originally Posted by tris06
(Post 31001193)
Never heard of Delano, SLS,house of originals or Mondrian. Where did they pick up these brands? Movenpick purchase? They seem mostly US based.
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Originally Posted by newflya
(Post 30998999)
Note that Rixos has got just 4% business travellers, Angsana has 13%, Sofitel has 31%. Those are mostly leisure brands.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 31001233)
Very surprised about Sofitel. I would have thought much more business travellers. But it is true that we are talking about very different types of properties. Resorts like Sofitel Angkor, Krabi, etc have likely 99% leisure customers while Sofitel Washington, New York, etc have probably around 60-70% business customers. |
Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 31001233)
Very surprised about Sofitel. I would have thought much more business travellers. Business travel is heavily concentrated both with regard to day of the week and season. E.g., peak days for business travellers when it comes to hotel stays are Tuesday and Wednesday nights, followed by Monday and Thursday nights. Very few stay Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. And then there's seasonality. E.g., very few business travellers are on the road between mid-December and mid-January (and mid-January until late February is still low season for business travellers). Numbers are considerably lower during the Summer as well. |
I found JW generally slightly above Sofitel. Sofitel is some where between a regular Marriott and a flagship Marriott. Novotel seem like courtyard but in Asia sometimes I found Marriott properties have higher standard in building the hotel. For example a nice Marriott or courtyard can simply surpass a regular Sofitel or Novotel.
I never feel Sofitel brand as any that luxury as accord statement, to me it just like any of a regular LM or Marriott..a upscale business hotel. At least there are some JW is nice enough to call it a luxury. |
Originally Posted by Vince Chan
(Post 31631609)
I found JW generally slightly above Sofitel. Sofitel is some where between a regular Marriott and a flagship Marriott. Novotel seem like courtyard but in Asia sometimes I found Marriott properties have higher standard in building the hotel. For example a nice Marriott or courtyard can simply surpass a regular Sofitel or Novotel.
I never feel Sofitel brand as any that luxury as accord statement, to me it just like any of a regular LM or Marriott..a upscale business hotel. At least there are some JW is nice enough to call it a luxury. Marriott employee? |
My limited experience from France, UK, and Switzerland:
Novotel - Cookie cutter business hotel stressing consistency Mercure - Catch all family oriented hotel Ibis - consistent economy experience (not for me, but can see the appeal) Ibis Styles - smart, value, hip targeting young professionals Sofitel - top end with focus on service (in my limited experience) Overall, they seem to have upped their game in the last year or so. |
Originally Posted by Vince Chan
(Post 31631609)
I found JW generally slightly above Sofitel. Sofitel is some where between a regular Marriott and a flagship Marriott. Novotel seem like courtyard but in Asia sometimes I found Marriott properties have higher standard in building the hotel. For example a nice Marriott or courtyard can simply surpass a regular Sofitel or Novotel.
I never feel Sofitel brand as any that luxury as accord statement, to me it just like any of a regular LM or Marriott..a upscale business hotel. At least there are some JW is nice enough to call it a luxury. |
Somehow I find that chain hotel in Asia tends to be all over the place.
The distinction between the brands is somewhat blurred as there are properties that supposedly a luxury brand end up no where near luxury hotel. On the other hand, there are hotels that supposedly select service brands yet have all the feature of more upscale brands with service to match. As for Accor brands, I do see Sofitels is somewhat comparable to Westins and Marriotts. While Fairmonts are comparable to Ritz-Carltons. Raffleses would be a notch above St Regises (and comparable to some of the higher end offering of The Luxury Collections) |
I don't remember reading this before : two new brands for 2022, The Pullman Living and Novotel Living :
https://press.accor.com/asia-and-pac...pines/?lang=en |
Originally Posted by nrouxel
(Post 31661339)
I don't remember reading this before : two new brands for 2022, The Pullman Living and Novotel Living :
https://press.accor.com/asia-and-pac...pines/?lang=en Accor already have the serviced apartments brand (Adagio), but these seem to be new. https://www.accorhotels.com/hotels-o...index.en.shtml |
Originally Posted by nrouxel
(Post 31661339)
I don't remember reading this before : two new brands for 2022, The Pullman Living and Novotel Living :
https://press.accor.com/asia-and-pac...pines/?lang=en |
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