be clear i’m Not an Accor employer or their lawyer ... 😃 I have switched to Marriots also, starting from this year, after several years of Plat loyalty... but ....I can’t be agree with you at all

“Accor has not allowed members to accrue any points on their promos whenever a lone one point is included as part of the payment”

even if you pay with some points and some cash, you earn points on part you pay by cash.

and FYI, last year, 80% of my stays were with any bonus points offer (x2, x3, X4, 1.000 pts, etc)

“But cash that can only be used on same or more expensive rates”

more expensive Rates only when there are really special rates ...like private sales

compared with other reward programs, if you book in low season at any hotel, I think the “cost” by points is lower than other hotel chains working with “fix” points x night

“stays with points are allowed if and only the member is present”

i have booked some times with points for my parents ...never had a problem.

“And I am not even mentioning the non breakfast included for Platinums”

breakfast is included for Platinum at any Asian property.

Accor have welcome drink policy and welcome gift policy . Perhaps it has not always same value as breakfast...but sometimes yes, or more

“and only one tier upgrade room, eventually from a room with one chair, to a room with two chairs”

completely disagree. I have had double / triple upgrade, even at prestige or opera Suite, booking simply a standard room.

Other programs don’t allow always upgrade at suites.

While it’s annoying that the cheaper rates don’t allow points, it’s been a feature of the program for many years. The flip side of that is Accor does not have nights where points cannot be used, so unlike most programs, a busy period still allows point redemptions should rooms be available.

Jul 11-14.

Last year, I tried to use my points in Luang Prabang as the hotel rates were ridiculously expensive and if I’m not mistaken, I don’t think I could use my points at all (or maybe the rates for pts were so much higher that it made no sense, can’t remember for sure now).

“Feature” is an interesting word to use here.

I guess I was spoiled with 12 yrs of Plat status with Starwood (who did not have black out dates) and reward bookings were tremendous value when cash rates were unaffordable. Maybe Marriott will fix that. I can’t understand why Accor blocks you from using points on their best prices. To me this is a huge devaluation on the points/program.

Starwood were keen to promote no blackout dates, but still had limited availability of rewards, that’s not the case here where you can use points on the last room for sale.

18 years ago I would have said the same thing as a SPG Plat, but local properties quickly declined and I moved programs. Now the Marriott properties are once again in good numbers for where I want to go, so I hold Platinum again, but Accor have a superior footprint in many other places I visit, I just redeemed 2k for a stay in Adelaide at the Pullman leaving me to pay $30USD cash, with a lounge I am happy. And there are zero options for Marriott in the same city while Accor have 9 (+ 6 from Mantra) , IHG 2 and Hilton 1.

There is not one program that meets all my needs, which is why I hold Accor Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum and IHG Spire Ambassador, no of which are statuses obtained by cards.

I really want to use up my points for a stay at the Swissotel Stamford in SIN. (I’ve decided Accor’s loyalty program doesn’t work for me.)

I’m disappointed that the rate at which you can make a points booking has gone up even though it is still 5 months away (but the cheapest cash rate is unchanged). Since I have no experience with Accor, can someone tell me if potential future sale prices are applicable to points rates or only the cheaper non-points reservations? Trying to decide if I should hold out for a sale or if I should just book now. (I don’t want to pay the premium for a flex rate as my dates are fixed,)

TIA