Get Accor Status for 2+ Years with Stays in 2020H2
Sep 8, 2020, 4:49 am
#46
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YYC
Programs: UA 1K, Accor Platinum, Marriott Gold, Delta Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 361
In Brazil I'm paying an average of 40 EUR / night for 4-star hotels (Novotel and Mercure) and 70 EUR / night for 5-star hotels (Fairmont, Pullman and Grand Mercure). Most of these are flexible rates with breakfast included.
I believe 3-star rates are around 30 EUR / night at the moment.
I believe 3-star rates are around 30 EUR / night at the moment.
Sep 11, 2020, 12:16 pm
#47
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SIN/PVG
Programs: Basement Lurker Club
Posts: 237
Yup that's correct, hence my earlier comment in the thread where people chided me for being negative. I already earned 95% of my status for next year in H1 but it was pretty much meaningless I guess since everyone pretty much got that given anyway. I'd feel better if at least counted towards something, lifetime status perhaps? Given my three recent stays in the Bay Area over the past 30 days, and each property received 0 benefits as a Diamond, even charging on two for what is supposed to be included in the member benefits, I think I'm just about ready to move my business.
Last edited by hessinger; Sep 11, 2020 at 12:22 pm
Sep 12, 2020, 10:28 pm
#48
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: NZ Elite, QF Platinum, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Accor Diamond
Posts: 149
Is there anything official from Accor on this.
I had 6 nights in H1 of 2020 (inc 5 bonus as a silver). Have 51 planned in H2. Figured it was worth 3 nights as a status run to flick to Platinum for the free breakfast as NZ based.
With this policy would it be worth hitting platinum before 31-12-20, as then Id need 60 nights in 2021 to retain for 2022.
or is it worth remaining at 57 on NYE 2020 then waiting until 3 next year to hit plat, which would mean I retain until 31-12-22.
or doesnt it matter?
I can see the guidance on lounge lobby but nothing official from Accor
Dont want to be on 58 then be wiped for 2021...!
Thank you
I had 6 nights in H1 of 2020 (inc 5 bonus as a silver). Have 51 planned in H2. Figured it was worth 3 nights as a status run to flick to Platinum for the free breakfast as NZ based.
With this policy would it be worth hitting platinum before 31-12-20, as then Id need 60 nights in 2021 to retain for 2022.
or is it worth remaining at 57 on NYE 2020 then waiting until 3 next year to hit plat, which would mean I retain until 31-12-22.
or doesnt it matter?
I can see the guidance on lounge lobby but nothing official from Accor
Dont want to be on 58 then be wiped for 2021...!
Thank you
Sep 13, 2020, 1:51 am
#49
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
Yes, this is a policy not a rumour. Mails were sent out in May (see post 1 above).
Sep 13, 2020, 9:21 am
#50
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
Is there anything official from Accor on this.
I had 6 nights in H1 of 2020 (inc 5 bonus as a silver). Have 51 planned in H2. Figured it was worth 3 nights as a status run to flick to Platinum for the free breakfast as NZ based.
With this policy would it be worth hitting platinum before 31-12-20, as then Id need 60 nights in 2021 to retain for 2022.
or is it worth remaining at 57 on NYE 2020 then waiting until 3 next year to hit plat, which would mean I retain until 31-12-22.
or doesnt it matter?
I can see the guidance on lounge lobby but nothing official from Accor
Dont want to be on 58 then be wiped for 2021...!
Thank you
I had 6 nights in H1 of 2020 (inc 5 bonus as a silver). Have 51 planned in H2. Figured it was worth 3 nights as a status run to flick to Platinum for the free breakfast as NZ based.
With this policy would it be worth hitting platinum before 31-12-20, as then Id need 60 nights in 2021 to retain for 2022.
or is it worth remaining at 57 on NYE 2020 then waiting until 3 next year to hit plat, which would mean I retain until 31-12-22.
or doesnt it matter?
I can see the guidance on lounge lobby but nothing official from Accor
Dont want to be on 58 then be wiped for 2021...!
Thank you
Sep 20, 2020, 2:10 am
#51
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: MEL
Programs: QF GA NZ WN. Accor+ Bonvoy IHC
Posts: 250
Yes, this is a policy not a rumour. Mails were sent out in May (see post 1 above).
Oct 7, 2020, 11:18 am
#52
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Well I am confused
I have reached 18,000 status points this year so far with another 1500 coming in the next few days and a couple more stays later in the year. These status points include the 7000 given in 1H 2020. I recieved an email that said i have been credited with 3 SNU. I have 7000-8000 status points remaining to get diamond level. i thought 2H 2020 was being rolled into 2021. Or if i do get another 7-8k points before 31st of December I will be leveled up to Diamond?
Oct 7, 2020, 1:58 pm
#53
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,835
I have reached 18,000 status points this year so far with another 1500 coming in the next few days and a couple more stays later in the year. These status points include the 7000 given in 1H 2020. I recieved an email that said i have been credited with 3 SNU. I have 7000-8000 status points remaining to get diamond level. i thought 2H 2020 was being rolled into 2021. Or if i do get another 7-8k points before 31st of December I will be leveled up to Diamond?
Oct 8, 2020, 3:02 am
#54
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
So would that mean say i earn 15,000 status points in 2H 2020? Not only will that get me a stack of Suite night certs In 2020 to use in 2021(not sure if their expiry will get extended) but will also contribute to 2021 grabbing more certs. Sounds like double dipping. But if so then i am happy. It will be close to Diamond after our christmas stay. I wondering if it is worth spending the extra 2-300 Euros or so to get across the line. Hope additional benefits come for diamond level to make it more attractive to retain.
Oct 8, 2020, 6:56 am
#55
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
So would that mean say i earn 15,000 status points in 2H 2020? Not only will that get me a stack of Suite night certs In 2020 to use in 2021(not sure if their expiry will get extended) but will also contribute to 2021 grabbing more certs. Sounds like double dipping. But if so then i am happy. It will be close to Diamond after our christmas stay. I wondering if it is worth spending the extra 2-300 Euros or so to get across the line. Hope additional benefits come for diamond level to make it more attractive to retain.
Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 am
#56
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,835
The one benefit for which we would need more data points to reach conclusions about its attractiveness is whether upgrades (when NOT using suite night awards) are more frequent as Diamond than as Platinum.
Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 am
#57
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,835
So would that mean say i earn 15,000 status points in 2H 2020? Not only will that get me a stack of Suite night certs In 2020 to use in 2021(not sure if their expiry will get extended) but will also contribute to 2021 grabbing more certs. Sounds like double dipping. But if so then i am happy.
Renewing status in 2021 will never have been easier, short of flat out extensions which we had this year!
Oct 8, 2020, 10:00 am
#58
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
And we're not going to get those data points for a long time; perhaps years. We're in a temporary world of unprecedented high hotel capacity and low travel demand. With hotel vacancies high, I would expect lots of upgrades on arrival at all of the upper statuses. And for those people who are Diamond, I wouldn't in any way record an upgrade received as a predictive data point on the value of Diamond. We're just not in normal times. Let's see what happens when the hotel is operating at 95% capacity. Who knows when that will happen, but eventually it will.
Oct 8, 2020, 11:07 am
#59
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,835
And we're not going to get those data points for a long time; perhaps years. We're in a temporary world of unprecedented high hotel capacity and low travel demand. With hotel vacancies high, I would expect lots of upgrades on arrival at all of the upper statuses. And for those people who are Diamond, I wouldn't in any way record an upgrade received as a predictive data point on the value of Diamond. We're just not in normal times. Let's see what happens when the hotel is operating at 95% capacity. Who knows when that will happen, but eventually it will.
Regarding the fact that we are in a temporary period of high capacity, if I heard that upgrades are unusually generous and that Diamonds get upgraded to premium suites and Platinums to standard suites (or Diamonds standard suites, Platinums top room type below suites), then that would satisfy me about the value of Diamond status.