Diamond Status Discussion Thread
Mar 25, 2022, 6:59 am
#106
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,729
I’ve booked a number of Accor properties in New Zealand for July. Online new bookings allowed me to book ALL flexible rates that included complimentary breakfast while some did not give such an option. I emailed those other properties that weren’t clear and they’ve replied that as a ALL Diamond - not Accor Plus Diamond- I had DAILY (read weekday) complimentary breakfasts too… so I am not sure what else is to be offered out of the AP benefits too. I did not expect daily complimentary breakfast.
I have emailed some of those properties for clarification on ALL Diamonds being given additional benefits outside of the comped breakfast while onsite (ie not including the free room night).
I am aware of the AP program as I did have that just prior to covid19 lockdowns and let it expire as I was not going back to that part of the world previously, but if they will give me benefits similar to AP-D, then why pay more for them same?
Can anyone please elaborate or confirm this happens where ALL diamonds are treated similarly to AP diamonds?
I have emailed some of those properties for clarification on ALL Diamonds being given additional benefits outside of the comped breakfast while onsite (ie not including the free room night).
I am aware of the AP program as I did have that just prior to covid19 lockdowns and let it expire as I was not going back to that part of the world previously, but if they will give me benefits similar to AP-D, then why pay more for them same?
Can anyone please elaborate or confirm this happens where ALL diamonds are treated similarly to AP diamonds?
Mar 29, 2022, 9:42 am
#107
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Flying Blue, Accor Le Club, Hilton HHonors, Hertz Gold Plus, Avis Preferred
Posts: 476
I'm looking at the Sofitel Montreal, trying to book a Thursday - Sunday stay.
Among all the prices that are proposed, the two cheapest ones are a "Stay longer and save"
Total price: $1475,05 + 29*3 for breakfast = 1562,05
The second one is a "ALL - Prepaid - Free breakfast on weekend"
Total price: $1562,95
It's actually cheaper to pay for breakfast... What an amazing benefit...
Among all the prices that are proposed, the two cheapest ones are a "Stay longer and save"
Total price: $1475,05 + 29*3 for breakfast = 1562,05
The second one is a "ALL - Prepaid - Free breakfast on weekend"
Total price: $1562,95
It's actually cheaper to pay for breakfast... What an amazing benefit...
Mar 29, 2022, 10:24 am
#108
Join Date: May 2020
Location: YUL
Programs: A3 *G, QR Plat, Accor ALL Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 129
Is there an event going on in Montreal these dates? The prices look super high.
Mar 29, 2022, 4:11 pm
#109
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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Mar 29, 2022, 4:28 pm
#111
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Mar 31, 2022, 7:42 am
#112
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,232
I like Accor’s luxury brands . I made Platinum last year and could go for Diamond this year . However , it doesn’t appear that Diamond is a status that one should aspire to achieve . Reading these threads , I don’t see much that would inspire me to move beyond Platinum. The benefits at Diamond seem to be underwhelming.
Just my 2 cents - Diamond should offer breakfast plus 1 guest weekdays worldwide . Diamond benefits should include “guaranteed “ early and late check-in . The upgrade benefit should be further defined such as a 2 category upgrade , excluding specialty suites and villas , based on availability at check-in. While some properties go above and beyond the published benefits , it should be the standard , not the exception.
If it seems I am trying to turn Diamond into IHG Royal Ambassador, well that’s kind of what I am proposing . I find Royal Ambassador program to be rich in benefits . I would find it very hard to leave Royal Ambassador to become a Diamond . Yes , Accor has great reach and properties at all price points. That being said , Diamond does not seem to offer enough for Accor’s top spenders.
Of course , I may be missing some things and welcome any and all comments . Thanks
Just my 2 cents - Diamond should offer breakfast plus 1 guest weekdays worldwide . Diamond benefits should include “guaranteed “ early and late check-in . The upgrade benefit should be further defined such as a 2 category upgrade , excluding specialty suites and villas , based on availability at check-in. While some properties go above and beyond the published benefits , it should be the standard , not the exception.
If it seems I am trying to turn Diamond into IHG Royal Ambassador, well that’s kind of what I am proposing . I find Royal Ambassador program to be rich in benefits . I would find it very hard to leave Royal Ambassador to become a Diamond . Yes , Accor has great reach and properties at all price points. That being said , Diamond does not seem to offer enough for Accor’s top spenders.
Of course , I may be missing some things and welcome any and all comments . Thanks
Mar 31, 2022, 8:02 am
#113
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,729
I like Accor’s luxury brands . I made Platinum last year and could go for Diamond this year . However , it doesn’t appear that Diamond is a status that one should aspire to achieve . Reading these threads , I don’t see much that would inspire me to move beyond Platinum. The benefits at Diamond seem to be underwhelming.
Just my 2 cents - Diamond should offer breakfast plus 1 guest weekdays worldwide . Diamond benefits should include “guaranteed “ early and late check-in . The upgrade benefit should be further defined such as a 2 category upgrade , excluding specialty suites and villas , based on availability at check-in. While some properties go above and beyond the published benefits , it should be the standard , not the exception.
If it seems I am trying to turn Diamond into IHG Royal Ambassador, well that’s kind of what I am proposing . I find Royal Ambassador program to be rich in benefits . I would find it very hard to leave Royal Ambassador to become a Diamond . Yes , Accor has great reach and properties at all price points. That being said , Diamond does not seem to offer enough for Accor’s top spenders.
Of course , I may be missing some things and welcome any and all comments . Thanks
Just my 2 cents - Diamond should offer breakfast plus 1 guest weekdays worldwide . Diamond benefits should include “guaranteed “ early and late check-in . The upgrade benefit should be further defined such as a 2 category upgrade , excluding specialty suites and villas , based on availability at check-in. While some properties go above and beyond the published benefits , it should be the standard , not the exception.
If it seems I am trying to turn Diamond into IHG Royal Ambassador, well that’s kind of what I am proposing . I find Royal Ambassador program to be rich in benefits . I would find it very hard to leave Royal Ambassador to become a Diamond . Yes , Accor has great reach and properties at all price points. That being said , Diamond does not seem to offer enough for Accor’s top spenders.
Of course , I may be missing some things and welcome any and all comments . Thanks
Mar 31, 2022, 11:42 am
#115
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Saint Brieuc
Programs: HHonors, Accorhotel Platinium, Nordic Choice Platinium
Posts: 966
Mar 31, 2022, 11:48 am
#116
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,783
I beg to differ - if one aspires to hold several hotel chain cards, it does (often) require planning. I must say I've been shocked at the difference not only Diamond vs Plat, but even Diamond vs Gold. Asia isn't very open right now, so it's really hard to get a broader comparison, however in Europe I get treated better in some other chains, where I hold comparably lower status.
Mar 31, 2022, 12:19 pm
#117
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
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Posts: 2,729
I beg to differ - if one aspires to hold several hotel chain cards, it does (often) require planning. I must say I've been shocked at the difference not only Diamond vs Plat, but even Diamond vs Gold. Asia isn't very open right now, so it's really hard to get a broader comparison, however in Europe I get treated better in some other chains, where I hold comparably lower status.
If I was Platinum and short of Diamond, no way would I spend more money on another stay just to get it. Gold to Plat, perhaps. Plat to Diamond? No way!
Last edited by CanadaDH; Mar 31, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Mar 31, 2022, 3:05 pm
#118
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
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Indeed, after experience we know. But since this thread has little traction, the newbies such as myself before, simply do not/did not know. I was very happy to have Accor Gold back in the day as my tertiary programme. Last year I opted to taste Accor Diamond out of interest, and so far I have sorely disappointed. Repeat hotels that gave me suites as plat have not repeated this as Diamond. Indeed one repeat hotel even gave me a lower category upgrade than back when I stayed with them as Gold.
Apr 1, 2022, 2:07 pm
#119
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,110
Apr 1, 2022, 2:14 pm
#120
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