Diamond Status Discussion Thread
#76
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Hi guys it looks like I might become a diamond member at the end of this month. I am going to be so close I might treat my wife and her mum to a nice massage (Christmas present) to get over the line. I know the benefits are not much more than plat members but I am thinking it would be worth it because likely they will make 2021 easy to renew (actually they already did) and if say in 2022 or 2023 I have some reason I do not travel much I can get a soft landing back to plat.
Did anyone notice any difference of how they were treated by hotels being diamond members? I hope they add 1 more benefit or 2 in the next 1-2 years. In reality I probably only usually spend around that 6000 Euro mark but with less flying I allowed myself to spend more at hotels nearby and hence the higher number of points this year.
Did anyone notice any difference of how they were treated by hotels being diamond members? I hope they add 1 more benefit or 2 in the next 1-2 years. In reality I probably only usually spend around that 6000 Euro mark but with less flying I allowed myself to spend more at hotels nearby and hence the higher number of points this year.
- systematic upgrade (no need to bargain and hear bad excuses)
- bottle of champagne or wine offered in room with nice snack platters
- early check-in and late check out (I mean real ones like checking-in early morning and checkout at 5 or 6 pm). For this, we are of course helped by the lower occupancy in Covid time.
#77
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
I'm not sure how to make a prediction on whether treatment as a Diamond will be better. I can't say that I've had better treatment as a Diamond member, but then, I've only ever been a Diamond member since the tier was added. I'm not sure it's a fair comparison to my days as Platinum, because at the time I was Platinum, it was the highest tier available at the time. I'd be interested to hear from someone who spent a year or two (non-COVID) as Platinum but after Diamond was added, and then spent a year or two as Diamond (again, non-COVID). We need more time to get those experiences and reports.
This year it's even more difficult to say, with occupancy being so low everywhere. I've been proactively given 6 PM checkouts on my stays this year, but then with COVID protocols forcing the room to sit empty for 2 days between guests, and occupancy being so low, I'd be more surprised if they didn't give a late checkout, and not just for Diamond members. That should be easy for most hotels to offer right now.
I've found that the quality of my welcome amenities seems to vary by property. I regularly get a couple of bottles of wine in the room at the Chateau Lake Louise, and have so for years. At other hotels that I frequent, I've never received a bottle of wine. I attribute those benefits to the specific hotel and not my membership status.
As for upgrades on arrival, even as a Diamond, I don't think I've ever had one.
This year it's even more difficult to say, with occupancy being so low everywhere. I've been proactively given 6 PM checkouts on my stays this year, but then with COVID protocols forcing the room to sit empty for 2 days between guests, and occupancy being so low, I'd be more surprised if they didn't give a late checkout, and not just for Diamond members. That should be easy for most hotels to offer right now.
I've found that the quality of my welcome amenities seems to vary by property. I regularly get a couple of bottles of wine in the room at the Chateau Lake Louise, and have so for years. At other hotels that I frequent, I've never received a bottle of wine. I attribute those benefits to the specific hotel and not my membership status.
As for upgrades on arrival, even as a Diamond, I don't think I've ever had one.
#78
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: YYZ, DUB, OGG
Programs: *G (as are spouse and 2 kids), ACCOR ALL DIAMOND, Marriott - GE
Posts: 1,190
Diamond levels
I was recently told I was a “D1” and the top level of Diamond is D5.
How are these decided? I cannot imagine the “black” level, but if someone wants to explain those too, I’m sure there is an audience
How are these decided? I cannot imagine the “black” level, but if someone wants to explain those too, I’m sure there is an audience
#79
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#82
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Singapore
Programs: Accor Diamond, GHA Black
Posts: 2
Thanks for sharing this information,
According to the Accor app, I should currently be at D-2, and the thing is, I'm currently at around 57k Status points.(Since last year's points were brought forward)
I am already in quite deep with Accor and I cant imagine what kind of spending a D-5 would have, much less a Black.
I am still unable to post a link or picture here as I am new, but there is a way to see which D rank you are based on the Accor app.
Sometimes, you would be able to see availability for hotels that are currently still closed on the Accor app. If so, you would only see a single rate called "ALL Guaranteed Room D-1/2/3/4/5", no other rates would be available. I remember that I used to see mine being D-1, now it shows D-2.
By the way, I tried booking this "ALL Guaranteed Room" at a hotel that was currently still closed, and the hotel just called to let me know that since they are still closed, they would have to cancel my booking.
According to the Accor app, I should currently be at D-2, and the thing is, I'm currently at around 57k Status points.(Since last year's points were brought forward)
I am already in quite deep with Accor and I cant imagine what kind of spending a D-5 would have, much less a Black.
I am still unable to post a link or picture here as I am new, but there is a way to see which D rank you are based on the Accor app.
Sometimes, you would be able to see availability for hotels that are currently still closed on the Accor app. If so, you would only see a single rate called "ALL Guaranteed Room D-1/2/3/4/5", no other rates would be available. I remember that I used to see mine being D-1, now it shows D-2.
By the way, I tried booking this "ALL Guaranteed Room" at a hotel that was currently still closed, and the hotel just called to let me know that since they are still closed, they would have to cancel my booking.
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#83
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
Thanks for sharing this information,
According to the Accor app, I should currently be at D-2, and the thing is, I'm currently at around 57k Status points.(Since last year's points were brought forward)
I am already in quite deep with Accor and I cant imagine what kind of spending a D-5 would have, much less a Black.
I am still unable to post a link or picture here as I am new, but there is a way to see which D rank you are based on the Accor app.
Sometimes, you would be able to see availability for hotels that are currently still closed on the Accor app. If so, you would only see a single rate called "ALL Guaranteed Room D-1/2/3/4/5", no other rates would be available. I remember that I used to see mine being D-1, now it shows D-2.
By the way, I tried booking this "ALL Guaranteed Room" at a hotel that was currently still closed, and the hotel just called to let me know that since they are still closed, they would have to cancel my booking.
According to the Accor app, I should currently be at D-2, and the thing is, I'm currently at around 57k Status points.(Since last year's points were brought forward)
I am already in quite deep with Accor and I cant imagine what kind of spending a D-5 would have, much less a Black.
I am still unable to post a link or picture here as I am new, but there is a way to see which D rank you are based on the Accor app.
Sometimes, you would be able to see availability for hotels that are currently still closed on the Accor app. If so, you would only see a single rate called "ALL Guaranteed Room D-1/2/3/4/5", no other rates would be available. I remember that I used to see mine being D-1, now it shows D-2.
By the way, I tried booking this "ALL Guaranteed Room" at a hotel that was currently still closed, and the hotel just called to let me know that since they are still closed, they would have to cancel my booking.
Where in the app are you seeing this?
#84
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Singapore
Programs: Accor Diamond, GHA Black
Posts: 2
To my knowledge, this hotel is currently used as a Quarantine facility and it shouldn’t have availability for you to make a reservation, but somehow they are offering rooms on the app. The rate name should be something like “ ALL Guaranteed Room D-__”
I would post a screenshot of what I see, unfortunately I am not able to as I am still new here
#85
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: YYZ, DUB, OGG
Programs: *G (as are spouse and 2 kids), ACCOR ALL DIAMOND, Marriott - GE
Posts: 1,190
This is a dummy booking for the Fairmont Pittsburgh for a few days in March. I have 66k+ status points at the moment … large part due to the double status point bonus
#86
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 938
I will be more specific, try searching Bangkok, 6 October - 7 October, Mövenpick BDMS Wellness Resort, click into ‘see room rates’ and just click into ‘see rates’ of any rooms.
To my knowledge, this hotel is currently used as a Quarantine facility and it shouldn’t have availability for you to make a reservation, but somehow they are offering rooms on the app. The rate name should be something like “ ALL Guaranteed Room D-__”
I would post a screenshot of what I see, unfortunately I am not able to as I am still new here
To my knowledge, this hotel is currently used as a Quarantine facility and it shouldn’t have availability for you to make a reservation, but somehow they are offering rooms on the app. The rate name should be something like “ ALL Guaranteed Room D-__”
I would post a screenshot of what I see, unfortunately I am not able to as I am still new here
#88
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,732
I will be more specific, try searching Bangkok, 6 October - 7 October, Mövenpick BDMS Wellness Resort, click into ‘see room rates’ and just click into ‘see rates’ of any rooms.
To my knowledge, this hotel is currently used as a Quarantine facility and it shouldn’t have availability for you to make a reservation, but somehow they are offering rooms on the app. The rate name should be something like “ ALL Guaranteed Room D-__”
I would post a screenshot of what I see, unfortunately I am not able to as I am still new here
To my knowledge, this hotel is currently used as a Quarantine facility and it shouldn’t have availability for you to make a reservation, but somehow they are offering rooms on the app. The rate name should be something like “ ALL Guaranteed Room D-__”
I would post a screenshot of what I see, unfortunately I am not able to as I am still new here
I think Diamond is Diamond, and that's that. If there are internal sub-tiers within that, then I've never seen it.
#90
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: YYZ, DUB, OGG
Programs: *G (as are spouse and 2 kids), ACCOR ALL DIAMOND, Marriott - GE
Posts: 1,190
I'm cool with that - again, it was brought up independently at two different properties without me starting the conversation so I thought I would ask here on Flyertalk.