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escape4 Oct 26, 2018 1:33 pm

Comparison of Accor Brands
 
Is there is full listing of Accor brands and how they compare with each other somewhere on FT? I only found a 2012 thread with a brief discussion about Accor having too many brands which are not distinctive enough.

There is a nice post by [MENTION=209030]starflyergold[/MENTION] in the sticky which lists brands in order of luxury, so that is useful to know where a brand stands. I am not sure where such rankings come from (personal opinion or from Accor?) but I realize it's not a precise science nor do I need something very precise anyway. Are there any other differentiating factors in addition to the level of luxury?

For example, Pullman and McGallery are above Grand Mercure but below Sofitel. How do Pullman and McGallery differ?

How about Novotel vs Mercure?

Is So Sofitel seen as the same brand as Sofitel?

Goldorak Oct 26, 2018 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30359833)
Is there is full listing of Accor brands and how they compare with each other somewhere on FT?

None that I am aware of. I have one in mind seen on an Accor site but this was several years ago and so it is obviously outdated with all the new brands that join recently.


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30359833)
Are there any other differentiating factors in addition to the level of luxury?

Yes. Some brands are standardized (e.g. Novotel), some are not.


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30359833)
For example, Pullman and McGallery are above Grand Mercure but below Sofitel. How do Pullman and McGallery differ?

MGallery are usually small to medium size boutique hotels, often "historical" places with charm. Pullman is more standardized, modern and business-oriented.


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30359833)
How about Novotel vs Mercure?

Novotel is standardized (except in Asia where they are much better). Mercure is semi standardized. Novotel is very family-oriented, especially in France (kids stay for free or almost)
It is usually considered that Novotel is above Mercure but it is often wrong. If a Mercure has been renovated recently, I consider them above Novotel. The Novotel concept has aged considerably IMO.


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30359833)
Is So Sofitel seen as the same brand as Sofitel?

Sofitel So is a sub-brand of Sofitel, for "trendy" hotels. A kind of equivalent of W hotels.

I hope this helps. I am clearly in the opinion that Accor has too many brands now.

restlessinRNO Oct 26, 2018 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 30360079)
... I am clearly in the opinion that Accor has too many brands now.

Haha! Yes, I agree, but this seems to be the trend, isn't it! One could think of Hilton, IHG in this regard, for instance. :)

escape4 Oct 26, 2018 4:53 pm

[MENTION=225231]Goldorak[/MENTION], thanks a lot, this is very helpful!

Marriott+Starwood now also have a huge number of brands (29).

Maelstrom Oct 26, 2018 7:14 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 30360079)
I hope this helps. I am clearly in the opinion that Accor has too many brands now.

I think so, too. And now we will be getting four new brands in Australia/NZ once Mantra is brought into the program. I believe I read that these will not be rebranded?

1flyer Oct 27, 2018 1:14 am

Accor has a PDF geared at investors and potential franchisees which explains the positioning of each brand in detail.

Obviously, this doesn't tell you everything about the brands. For one, Accor has been on a buying spree and acquired a bunch of different brands. Therefore, they may be tuning/changing the image of existing brands a bit. For another, some brands are meant to be softer (=not meant to be particularly uniform).

starflyergold Oct 27, 2018 3:04 am

This gives an overview of the plethora of Accor hotel brands: http://www.accorhotels-group.com/en/...portfolio.html (some are not part of Le Club)

escape4 Oct 27, 2018 10:47 am


Originally Posted by starflyergold (Post 30361603)
This gives an overview of the plethora of Accor hotel brands: http://www.accorhotels-group.com/en/...portfolio.html (some are not part of Le Club)

Great info there. That said, your luxury level ranking in the wiki of the sticky, and [MENTION=225231]Goldorak[/MENTION] 's summary of how some brands differ also give an objective comparison of brands without marketing-speak which can blur the issues.

remymartin Oct 27, 2018 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by escape4 (Post 30360462)
+Starwood now also have a huge number of brands (29).

Of which 11 relevant :)


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