Mar 31, 2016, 12:22 pm
Last edit by: jbeckett
Le Club Accorhotels is changing from 2017.
What we know so far:
Membership year:
- the membership year will change to calendar year, i.e. 1 January - 31 December
- any status achieved in 2016 will be carried forward until 31 December 2017
Points:
- there will be a distinction between reward points and the new status points
- status points can only be earned through hotel stays and related expenditure
- status points are not subject to the accelerator and will be earned at a rate of 25 points/ 10 Euro in most cases (12.5 in case of ibis and ibis styles, 10 Adagio and 5 at Adagio Access)
- Points remain valid for life, if an eligible stay is realized in the past 12 months (rolling year)
Status thresholds:
- to account for the lower earning rates of status points threshold for status have been lowered: 2,000 for silver, 7,000 for gold and 14,000 for platinum
- night requirements remain unchanged
- status is dependent on status points or nights, not both
Perks:
- no change
Redemptions:
- no change
The official website: http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub/new-rules-status.shtml Accorhotels have announced that an official communication to all members will issue around 7 April.
Issues still to be resolved:
- Accor Plus membership
What we know so far:
Membership year:
- the membership year will change to calendar year, i.e. 1 January - 31 December
- any status achieved in 2016 will be carried forward until 31 December 2017
Points:
- there will be a distinction between reward points and the new status points
- status points can only be earned through hotel stays and related expenditure
- status points are not subject to the accelerator and will be earned at a rate of 25 points/ 10 Euro in most cases (12.5 in case of ibis and ibis styles, 10 Adagio and 5 at Adagio Access)
- Points remain valid for life, if an eligible stay is realized in the past 12 months (rolling year)
Status thresholds:
- to account for the lower earning rates of status points threshold for status have been lowered: 2,000 for silver, 7,000 for gold and 14,000 for platinum
- night requirements remain unchanged
- status is dependent on status points or nights, not both
Perks:
- no change
Redemptions:
- no change
The official website: http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub/new-rules-status.shtml Accorhotels have announced that an official communication to all members will issue around 7 April.
Issues still to be resolved:
- Accor Plus membership
New programme details from 2017
Aug 16, 2016, 6:48 pm
#181
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 1,799
The cheapest option to renew/achieve platinum would probable be this: book two months, i.e. 60 nights, in some cheap Ibis, in Bangkok for example. If nightly rate is 30€, price for the platinum membership would be 1800€. Just check in and go back to check out after two months. 
Have to add of course 2 x flight tickets on top of that 1800€.
Have to add of course 2 x flight tickets on top of that 1800€.
Aug 16, 2016, 7:28 pm
#182
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 71
i'm 500 points shy of gold status.
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
Aug 16, 2016, 8:27 pm
#183
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
i'm 500 points shy of gold status.
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
but yes, it's cumulative. Redemption doesn't influence earnings.
Aug 16, 2016, 8:50 pm
#184
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 110
i'm 500 points shy of gold status.
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
is it currently cumulative? ie lets say i use 6000 points to reduce my next hotel stay price but i earn more than 500 points. will that one stay (less than 30 required for gold) but cumulative over 10k points grant me gold status even though i have used 6000 points redemption?
Aug 16, 2016, 10:01 pm
#185
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
2017 re-quali is gonna be a tough mother-fukka.
Right now, platinum is easy: Given all the bonus point options available, it is achievable by spending ~3k EUR at Accor hotels. In 2017, the lowest amount for platinum is 5,600 EUR. (That is, unless you manage to stay 60+ nights at Accor properties in '17 at an average nightly rate of <93.33 EUR.)
Right now, platinum is easy: Given all the bonus point options available, it is achievable by spending ~3k EUR at Accor hotels. In 2017, the lowest amount for platinum is 5,600 EUR. (That is, unless you manage to stay 60+ nights at Accor properties in '17 at an average nightly rate of <93.33 EUR.)
Last edited by gilbertaue; Aug 16, 2016 at 10:17 pm
Aug 17, 2016, 2:25 am
#186
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 52
The thing is, I suppose that would involve mattress running for some of us. (I don't even think Bangkok would be cheapest, probably stays in an Asian country less-developed than Thailand or in some of the poorer Eastern European countries would yield even lower rates.)
I guess I'm trying to think what the new program changes mean for my elite strategy in 2017. This year, I'll make plat simply by registering for promos. My employer won't pay for anything better than Mercure or Novotel, but with 35ish nights or so, I'll still make plat by virtue of the bonus point promos.
With the same number of Accor nights next year, I'll make Gold, but just barely. I will hit plat at Accor for the first time this year, so I kind of look forward to enjoying the status next year. But 2018 will be a disaster
Aug 17, 2016, 2:34 am
#187
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: BA Gold, A3 Gold, FB Gold, Bonvoy Titanium / LTP, Accor Plat
Posts: 13,889
I'll possibly drop to Gold in 2017 (my year ends in November and I'm not sure I can be bothered to hit Plat renewal) and almost certainly in 2018. Other than the executive lounge, which affects me in maybe a quarter of my stays, and the reduction in redemption earning, I am not sure I'll lose that much at all.
Happy Mondays are great for boosting the night count. I hope they don't disappear.
Happy Mondays are great for boosting the night count. I hope they don't disappear.
Aug 17, 2016, 2:40 am
#188
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ZRH
Posts: 69
The cheapest option to renew/achieve platinum would probable be this: book two months, i.e. 60 nights, in some cheap Ibis, in Bangkok for example. If nightly rate is 30€, price for the platinum membership would be 1800€. Just check in and go back to check out after two months. Have to add of course 2 x flight tickets on top of that 1800€.
Have to add of course 2 x flight tickets on top of that 1800€.
Aug 17, 2016, 10:51 pm
#190
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
I do like plat membership, but i think there is just not enough incentive to excuse yourself to spend more to get it.
I think I could just qualify for Gold in 2018 but thats about it.
If I want plat i would need to make an excuse. But yeah I can book rooms with lounge benifits already and I usually do as I like to get suites.
I think I could just qualify for Gold in 2018 but thats about it.
If I want plat i would need to make an excuse. But yeah I can book rooms with lounge benifits already and I usually do as I like to get suites.
Aug 19, 2016, 7:18 am
#191
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Perth, WA, Australia
Programs: QF Gold, VA Plat, IHG Plat Amb, LCAH Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,846
Here's some AccorPlus details.
Bit of a mix on the status levels with calendar years and your membership date bioth possiblt having an effect
https://www.accorplus.com/leclub
Bit of a mix on the status levels with calendar years and your membership date bioth possiblt having an effect
https://www.accorplus.com/leclub
If you are upgraded to Gold in the same year that you join Accor Plus, your Gold status would be retained for another year at the time of renewal.
Any higher status acquired during the previous calendar year or at the beginning of the current year of renewal will be retained at Accor Plus renewal time.
Any higher status acquired during the previous calendar year or at the beginning of the current year of renewal will be retained at Accor Plus renewal time.
Aug 19, 2016, 9:16 am
#192
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
Here's some AccorPlus details.
Bit of a mix on the status levels with calendar years and your membership date bioth possiblt having an effect
https://www.accorplus.com/leclub
Bit of a mix on the status levels with calendar years and your membership date bioth possiblt having an effect
https://www.accorplus.com/leclub
That email just pi**ed me off as instead of addressing A+ in this while arrangement, they basically just repeat what we already know.
I took the email, forwarded it to my A+ program manager and told him that it was a complete useless email. I have him some suggestions on what they should actually be sending out. I wonder if he caught my drift...
Aug 19, 2016, 6:38 pm
#193
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Perth, WA, Australia
Programs: QF Gold, VA Plat, IHG Plat Amb, LCAH Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,846
You may have read the email that came today from A+ on the new LCAH program qualifications etc.
That email just pi**ed me off as instead of addressing A+ in this while arrangement, they basically just repeat what we already know.
I took the email, forwarded it to my A+ program manager and told him that it was a complete useless email. I have him some suggestions on what they should actually be sending out. I wonder if he caught my drift...
That email just pi**ed me off as instead of addressing A+ in this while arrangement, they basically just repeat what we already know.
I took the email, forwarded it to my A+ program manager and told him that it was a complete useless email. I have him some suggestions on what they should actually be sending out. I wonder if he caught my drift...
Aug 19, 2016, 7:51 pm
#194
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SYD
Programs: UA PG 1MM - AccorPlus Platinum
Posts: 321
Your new tier will be based on Status Points earned during one of two periods
1. Your current membership year
AND
2. The previous calendar year
The highest number of Status Points earned during one of these two periods will determine your new tier.
So basically, say your A+ membership expires at the end of October 2019, then they will look at the period 1/1/18 to 31/12/18 AND at the period 1/11/18 to 31/10/19 and in order to retain platinum you need to have earned at least 14,000 Status Points during at least one of the above periods.
Very confusing but theoretically giving an edge compared to non-A+ memberships that will only be measured based on the 1/1 to 31/12 period.