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LoveHateRelationship Dec 9, 15 10:34 am

Accor buys FRHI Holdings (Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel)
 
Looks like Accor officially buys Fairmont

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ac...165359202.html

I wonder when the rewards program integration begins, if ever?

hclee01 Dec 9, 15 10:55 am

I just received this email for being Swissotel Club member:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/P9ikGX.png

Admiral Ackbar Dec 9, 15 11:09 am


Originally Posted by yannerd (Post 25838009)
I wonder when the rewards program integration begins, if ever?

Never I hope. Awful news...

starflyergold Dec 9, 15 11:14 am

Excellent news, exciting times ahead. ^

The Accorhotels PR is here: http://www.accorhotels-group.com/fil...otels_frhi.pdf

MSPeconomist Dec 9, 15 11:19 am

What a shame. I like Raffles and some of the Fairmonts.

stimpy Dec 9, 15 11:44 am

Here's my email for French readers...


Nous avons l’immense plaisir de partager avec vous l’annonce du rapprochement prochain de AccorHotels et du groupe Fairmont Raffles Hotels International. Ce Groupe unique, aujourd’hui présent dans 34 pays, rassemble trois marques emblématiques de l’hôtellerie de luxe : Raffles, Fairmont et Swissôtel.

En tant que membre Le Club AccorHotels, ce rapprochement vous permettra d’avoir accès à encore plus d’adresses exceptionnelles au travers d’AccorHotels parmi lesquelles des établissements légendaires comme le Raffles à Singapour, le Plaza Hotel à New York, le Savoy à Londres ou le Royal Monceau à Paris. Fairmont, Raffles et Swissôtel, ce sont 43.000 chambres dans 115 hôtels à travers le monde.

Le Club AccorHotels et les programmes de fidélité des marques Fairmont, Raffles et Swissôtel font partie des plus généreux et des plus innovants de l’hôtellerie mondiale. Nos marques et nos implantations sont très complémentaires et nous souhaitons tirer le meilleur de ces deux programmes pour vous offrir toujours plus de services exclusifs et de privilèges.

Ce rapprochement prendra encore quelques mois. Pour le moment, notre programme Le Club AccorHotels ne change pas. Votre statut, vos avantages et vos réservations restent les mêmes. Il n’y pas de modification apportée à la manière dont vous gérez votre compte ou réservez dans nos hôtels et chez nos partenaires.

Parce que votre fidélité mérite toutes nos attentions, nous vous tiendrons naturellement informés des grandes étapes de ce rapprochement au cours des prochains mois. D’ici là, nous restons à votre service dans nos hôtels, sur notre site accorhotels.com, au travers de notre application mobile ou de nos plateformes téléphoniques.

starflyergold Dec 9, 15 11:55 am

And in English:

Dear Member,

We are delighted to share with you the announcement of the forthcoming combination of AccorHotels and Fairmont Raffles Hotels International. This unique group, which is currently present in 34 countries, comprises three emblematic luxury hotel brands: Raffles, Fairmont and Swissôtel.

As a member of Le Club AccorHotels, this merger will give you access to even more exceptional addresses including legendary properties such as Raffles in Singapore, The Plaza in New York, The Savoy in London and Le Royal Monceau in Paris. Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel together represent 43,000 rooms in 115 hotels around the world.

Le Club AccorHotels and the loyalty programs of the Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel brands are among the most generous and innovative in the global hospitality sector. Our brands and locations are highly complementary and we want to make the most of these two programs to offer you ever more exclusive services and privileges.

This merger will take a few months to finalize. For the time being, your Le Club AccorHotels program will not change. Your status, advantages and bookings remain the same. No changes will be made in the way you manage your account or book your stays in our hotels.

Because your loyalty deserves our full attention, we will of course keep you informed of the key stages of this exciting project over the coming months. In the meantime, we remain at your service in our hotels, on our accorhotels.com website, our mobile app and via our customer care centers.

Feel Welcome

Sébastien Bazin

Chairman and CEO

IMH Dec 9, 15 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar (Post 25838276)
Awful news...


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25838344)
What a shame.


Originally Posted by starflyergold (Post 25838307)
Excellent news, exciting times ahead.

All perfectly understandable reactions.

It is indeed in many ways sad that we're seeing this little wave of takeovers. There's enough sameness out there already without IHG, Marriott and Accor getting even bigger. But once we accept that the industry consolidation is happening it is hard to think of a better outcome for both FRHI and Accor customers.

Swissôtel and Fairmont regulars could conceivably have preferred Starwood, but they have to be happier with Accor than if they'd seen FRHI sold to Marriott or Hilton. And Accor regulars should be pleased to see an acquisition that raises the average standard of Accor properties and sensibly expands the reach of LCAH.

My hope is that some of the Fairmont and Swissôtel culture rubs off and Accor realises that having customer service in house and empowered is long overdue.

stimpy Dec 9, 15 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25838344)
What a shame. I like Raffles and some of the Fairmonts.

I do too, but I don't see any shame here. It's good news to add them into the Accor family. Accor's new CEO has things moving in the right direction.

For me, a few properties stand out that I've stayed at before.

Fairmont San Jose. The most central hotel in San Jose and very nice.

Swisshotel Singapore. Formerly Sheraton, this is or was the tallest building in Singapore and I think my room was on the 65th floor.

Swisshotel Ankara. A really nice boutique like hotel in a great area.

There's others I've stayed at, but we'll see what things look like once the merger is completed. I've got Accor Platinum and I recall in the past that I could get Fairmont status from my Amex, but it's been a few years since I asked for that.

MSPeconomist Dec 9, 15 12:13 pm

Since when did Swissotel become a luxury brand? Some Fairmonts, such as Singapore or Chicago, aren't true luxury either. I'd say the same about Shanghai except for it's historic iconic building and location.

Also, an average size of about 400 rooms per hotel doesn't sound luxurious to me either.

stimpy Dec 9, 15 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25838663)
Since when did Swissotel become a luxury brand? Also, an average size of about 400 rooms per hotel doesn't sound luxurious to me either.

It's not at the lux level of FS or MO, etc. But many of the hotels are very nice quality properties with full service. All the ones I've been to are 4 star bordering on 5 star.

Admiral Ackbar Dec 9, 15 12:27 pm

Yes, Fairmont customer service (for plats at least) is fantastic: Accurate, speedy and proactive.

Can't see myself being upgraded to the same level of suites if it follows Accor rules either. I really hope the programs stay separate.

And judging from the overwhelmingly negative reaction in the Fairmont forum, I am not the only Fairmont plat to think that this is awful news. Can see how Accor members (of which I am one as well) could see it the other way,

IMH Dec 9, 15 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar (Post 25838745)
overwhelmingly negative reaction in the Fairmont forum

Indeed, people there don't seem to agree with the thread title: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/fairm...s-resorts.html

Much of the negativity seems to be based on a preference for the status quo, however, even though it's been clear for months that change (takeover or break up) was on the way.

For LCAH members with US addresses: keep an eye on Chase's Fairmont Visa card. It may be worth applying at some point in 2016 (and looking ahead it is hard to imagine that there won't be an Accor credit card).

TravelinSperry Dec 9, 15 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25838645)
I do too, but I don't see any shame here. It's good news to add them into the Accor family. Accor's new CEO has things moving in the right direction.

If he does he'll keep the Fairmont loyalty program and get rid of Le Accor. That is one poor program imo and the primary reason I don't stay at Accor (after trying their top tier for a year via a match).

starflyergold Dec 9, 15 12:45 pm

Change is never easy. Let's see how things plays out. This is not a merger of equals so on one side there is bound to be significant change but if they play this right there might be win-wins for all.And as I said over in the Fairmont forum: 27m Le Club members, 3m Fairmont loyalty members, you do the maths ;)

nicolas75 Dec 9, 15 1:06 pm

This is of course a very good news for Accor
A real international presence (now in North America) and higher category of hotels.

Some questions remain still:
- Will the Fairmont brand still exist in a near future?
- Will some Sofitel properties be renamed?
- Will the loyalty programs merge or will a separate program like Ambassador for IHG coexist?

virtualaris Dec 9, 15 3:00 pm

While Fairmont, Swissotel and Raffles under the same management before the acquisition by Accor, they still keep their own loyalty programs.

There are some more interesting benefits on Swissotel Circle that hopefully could be absorbed into Le Club :

Swissotel Circle :
- the middle tier on the loyalty program called Eleva, only requiring 20 nights/year comparing to Le Club Accor Gold, which is 30 nights/year
- Eleva members receive free Daily breakfast and Club Lounge access ^^^
- Eleva members receive Complimentary internet, local calls and faxes on every stay which is good for business and saving your company expenses. ^
- Zenit members (60 nights/year) could have another Zenit card for their spouses with the same benefits. ^

sxc Dec 9, 15 4:47 pm

Agree that given Fairmont group already has multiple loyalty programs and that Accor seems to have trouble doing anything in an integrated fashion (although improving recently) I'm not holding up my hopes that my Accor status will be recognised by Fairmont/Swissotel.

Goldorak Dec 9, 15 7:57 pm

This is great news ^
For those who think the loyalty programs of the acquired brands will remain, don't dream. All existing programs will be merged (for the best, I hope ;) )

JTCz Dec 9, 15 11:16 pm

For me, it is exciting news, although not as exciting as I'd expect. Good to hear Accor is playing the merger game, more coverage is always better, and coverage is the primary reason I stay with Accor (if you are not only travelling to the world's major metropoles, you will appreciate Accor having an ibis for you at some truly obscure locations otherwise not served by major hotel chains).

That said, the extra coverage they gain is not that massive. In Europe (where most of my travels are) perhaps only Swissotel Tallinn opens a new market for them, which is a very welcome development. Otherwise, it's mostly West-Coast USA and Canada and the South American Swissotels that really add coverage. Oh, and the Swissotel Osaka.

More worryingly, some properties are actual doubles with Accor's current upscale hotels, most striking being the Swissotel Berlin right in front the relatively-new Sofitel Berlin Kurfuerstendamm. So I wonder how Accor is going to handle those and if some dearly-acquired properties are going to be dropped.

I also expect the Swissotel brand to be dropped and hope for some of the properties to undergo thorough renovation before joining Sofitel or Pullman. Of course their rewards programme was generous given their scant coverage, it requires a lot of dedication (or repetitive travel patterns) to accrue even 20 nights at the chain.

I hope for LeClub to integrate new properties soon for the sole sake of me having delayed leisure trips to Tallinn and Osaka for lack of relevant-points-earning properties there :D

geilux Dec 9, 15 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25838344)
What a shame. I like Raffles and some of the Fairmonts.

Me too.... So what's the problem ?

ContinentalVoyager7 Dec 10, 15 1:28 am

I do hope that LeClub gets a revamp so as to make it better for their customers.

khabah Dec 10, 15 1:30 am

The Great Hotel Consolidation Program begins: first Marriott and Starwood, now Accor and Fairmont/Swissotel/Raffles. These are exciting and scary times but I have a feeling that these consolidations are the first of many to come. Let's see what plays out.

Bonne chance!

khabah

Awesom Andy Dec 10, 15 3:01 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25838645)
Swisshotel Singapore. Formerly Sheraton, this is or was the tallest building in Singapore and I think my room was on the 65th floor.

There's another Swisshotel in SIN as well, plus a good Fairmont, and a very lovely Raffles. And looking at what Accor has done with Sofitel So, I have grave fears for these properties.

TMM1982 Dec 10, 15 3:15 am

Is there any easy way to rack up free Accor points?

starflyergold Dec 10, 15 3:30 am


Originally Posted by TMM1982 (Post 25842248)
Is there any easy way to rack up Accor points?

Yes by frequently staying in one of their hotels ;) (there also plenty of points promotions over the year)

stimpy Dec 10, 15 5:41 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 25842221)
There's another Swisshotel in SIN as well, plus a good Fairmont, and a very lovely Raffles. And looking at what Accor has done with Sofitel So, I have grave fears for these properties.

Why the fear? Those hotels you mentioned have value. A company like Accor wants more properties in Singapore rather than less. I would not expect any change at those hotels, at least not for the next few years.

gilbertaue Dec 10, 15 6:43 am

Accor buys FRHI Holdings (Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel)
 
The Fairmont would probably become a sofitel, the Swisshotel a pullman and the so sofitel a MGallery. Sounds good?

dcstudent Dec 10, 15 7:26 am

I'm nervous about the lovely Fairmont's in Canada that I love so much. Namely, Lake Louise, Banff and Le Manoir Richelieu. Lovely hotels, with amazing staff in beautiful places. Just doesn't seem like the sort of places Accor would have much interest in.

Guess I'll have to wait and see!

stimpy Dec 10, 15 8:50 am


Originally Posted by dcstudent (Post 25842995)
I'm nervous about the lovely Fairmont's in Canada that I love so much. Namely, Lake Louise, Banff and Le Manoir Richelieu. Lovely hotels, with amazing staff in beautiful places. Just doesn't seem like the sort of places Accor would have much interest in.

Why would you say that? Any hotel chain would covet those hotels. Especially Accor!

gilbertaue Dec 10, 15 9:43 am

Accor buys FRHI Holdings (Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel)
 
I think there's a general lack of understanding of the Accor group.
I'd say wait and see.

ZenWorld Dec 10, 15 9:43 am

I had written in Fairmont thread, to allay the worries of the FPC Elites there. So hopefully, Accor folks will appreciate what I am doing for them. ;)

As a current Accor Plat, Fairmont Plat and Swissotel Eleva, I am happy that that Fairmont has chosen Accor (instead of IHG - which was the initial rumored buyer).

I have stayed at enough Fairmonts and Swissotels, and of course never received any points, and the airline miles that are supposed to come with the stays, I was often denied for reasons that I can never understand. In fact, just chasing credits was a real pain. (Fairmont stays into Swissotel Circle, or Swissotel stays into FPC, almost never post properly. ) Accor will sweep them into 1 account. Great. With points.

So as a person who has good understanding of Fairmont FPC, Swissotel Circle and Le Club Accor at Elite level, let me propose to Accor-Fairmont folks what are the best of each program to harness:

Name of Program: - Accor President's Circle? ( ;) )
Accor Plat Benefits:
- Lounge Access at Fairmonts & Swissotels - a must
(This is very important. Fairmont FPCs are very upset at Accor's purchase - but in-line with MR-SPG/Hyatt/HH major competitors, - Plats should get lounge access. And all Fairmont Plats have never gotten lounge access as a benefit - this will enable Fairmont Plats to embrace Accor from the very start.
Swissotel Eleva get Lounge Access as well currently.)
- Room Upgrades (Fairmont Plats & Swissotel Eleva currently requires an upgrade voucher to get upgrades)
- Welcome Drinks (I always enjoyed this gesture, and this is really nice if the hotel has a nice bar)
- Early Check-in, Late Check-out (Fairmont & Swissotel have it as well. Fairmont Plats get 5/6pm. In line with Hyatt/SPG - minimum of 4pm at least?)
- Accor awarding points for Spending (including incidentals) - Fairmont & Swissotel does not have a currency at the moment, so this will be a real improvement for Fairmont and Swissotel.
- Retain qualifications by Nights and Points and perhaps add a by Stays as well.

Swissotel Eleva & Zenit Benefits
- Complimentary Breakfast (Seriously, I have no idea why both Accor and Fairmont Plats do not get breakfast. In line with other major chain's elites, Accor and Fairmont should follow Swissotel in giving complimentary breakfast. FPC Elites will welcome Accor, should this be implemented. And current Accor Elites would be very happy too)

Fairmont Plat Benefits
- Suite Vouchers for Plats yearly. (Hyatt Diamond has 4x of this yearly. SPG has a weaker version of this. Accor can implement this, and offer Accor Plats some Suite upgrade vouchers to ensure they get some Suite stays as upgrades yearly)
- Fairmont Fit (This is one of the major draws of Fairmont - offering complimentary gym attires - including running outfits, socks, shoes for FPC Elites. Yoga mats are available too. Accor can extend this to Sofitels, Pullmans, and even Swissotels)
- Complimentary Health Club Access (Some Accor Properties wants to charge for access to saunas. Fairmont FPC allows access to their terrific Willow Stream Spa. Accor should follow the same in all their properties, at least for their Elites. As SPG Plat, I always get access to Health Clubs in the Hotel)
- Retain BMW bikes in Fairmonts
- FPC Plat Annual Passion Awards - Can be given in a different form. (it is up creativity here. But nice to have it)

Other suggestions:
- Have a lifetime status in Accor's Program
- issue points for F&B and Spa spend even on non-hotel stays (SPG & Hyatt are doing that)


(As Accor awards points for the spending at the hotels, and these points can be encashed - 2000 points for 40 EUR, I do not see the need to press for free nights in Fairmont Plat's program / Swissotel Eleva's Premier Awards. )

Welcome to add to the above.

Firewind Dec 10, 15 10:20 am


Originally Posted by geilux (Post 25841708)
Me too.... So what's the problem ?

I'm disappointed that it's not Hyatt+Fairmont.

iflyjetz Dec 10, 15 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 25843914)
I'm disappointed that it's not Hyatt+Fairmont.

That would have been nice, and would have filled some holes in the Hyatt footprint.


Congratulations to all Le Club members; I now find Accor a viable alternative.

The sale of FRHI was very much expected; both the Qatar government and Kingdom Holdings (the two FRHI owners) are under liquidity pressures. I wouldn't be surprised to see more sales of Qatar Kingdom Holdings hotels - they own several upscale properties.

stimpy Dec 10, 15 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by iflyjetz (Post 25845358)
The sale of FRHI was very much expected; both the Qatar government and Kingdom Holdings (the two FRHI owners) are under liquidity pressures. I wouldn't be surprised to see more sales of Qatar Kingdom Holdings hotels - they own several upscale properties.

What liquidity pressures? They've bought some iconic hotels this year and show no sign of slowing down. The LNG hasn't run out, has it?

AMRivlin Dec 10, 15 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by ZenWorld (Post 25843718)
I had written in Fairmont thread, to allay the worries of the FPC Elites there. So hopefully, Accor folks will appreciate what I am doing for them. ;)

As a current Accor Plat, Fairmont Plat and Swissotel Eleva, I am happy that that Fairmont has chosen Accor (instead of IHG - which was the initial rumored buyer).

I have stayed at enough Fairmonts and Swissotels, and of course never received any points, and the airline miles that are supposed to come with the stays, I was often denied for reasons that I can never understand. In fact, just chasing credits was a real pain. (Fairmont stays into Swissotel Circle, or Swissotel stays into FPC, almost never post properly. ) Accor will sweep them into 1 account. Great. With points.

So as a person who has good understanding of Fairmont FPC, Swissotel Circle and Le Club Accor at Elite level, let me propose to Accor-Fairmont folks what are the best of each program to harness:

Name of Program: - Accor President's Circle? ( ;) )
Accor Plat Benefits:
- Lounge Access at Fairmonts & Swissotels - a must
(This is very important. Fairmont FPCs are very upset at Accor's purchase - but in-line with MR-SPG/Hyatt/HH major competitors, - Plats should get lounge access. And all Fairmont Plats have never gotten lounge access as a benefit - this will enable Fairmont Plats to embrace Accor from the very start.
Swissotel Eleva get Lounge Access as well currently.)
- Room Upgrades (Fairmont Plats & Swissotel Eleva currently requires an upgrade voucher to get upgrades)
- Welcome Drinks (I always enjoyed this gesture, and this is really nice if the hotel has a nice bar)
- Early Check-in, Late Check-out (Fairmont & Swissotel have it as well. Fairmont Plats get 5/6pm. In line with Hyatt/SPG - minimum of 4pm at least?)
- Accor awarding points for Spending (including incidentals) - Fairmont & Swissotel does not have a currency at the moment, so this will be a real improvement for Fairmont and Swissotel.
- Retain qualifications by Nights and Points and perhaps add a by Stays as well.

Swissotel Eleva & Zenit Benefits
- Complimentary Breakfast (Seriously, I have no idea why both Accor and Fairmont Plats do not get breakfast. In line with other major chain's elites, Accor and Fairmont should follow Swissotel in giving complimentary breakfast. FPC Elites will welcome Accor, should this be implemented. And current Accor Elites would be very happy too)

Fairmont Plat Benefits
- Suite Vouchers for Plats yearly. (Hyatt Diamond has 4x of this yearly. SPG has a weaker version of this. Accor can implement this, and offer Accor Plats some Suite upgrade vouchers to ensure they get some Suite stays as upgrades yearly)
- Fairmont Fit (This is one of the major draws of Fairmont - offering complimentary gym attires - including running outfits, socks, shoes for FPC Elites. Yoga mats are available too. Accor can extend this to Sofitels, Pullmans, and even Swissotels)
- Complimentary Health Club Access (Some Accor Properties wants to charge for access to saunas. Fairmont FPC allows access to their terrific Willow Stream Spa. Accor should follow the same in all their properties, at least for their Elites. As SPG Plat, I always get access to Health Clubs in the Hotel)
- Retain BMW bikes in Fairmonts
- FPC Plat Annual Passion Awards - Can be given in a different form. (it is up creativity here. But nice to have it)

Other suggestions:
- Have a lifetime status in Accor's Program
- issue points for F&B and Spa spend even on non-hotel stays (SPG & Hyatt are doing that)


(As Accor awards points for the spending at the hotels, and these points can be encashed - 2000 points for 40 EUR, I do not see the need to press for free nights in Fairmont Plat's program / Swissotel Eleva's Premier Awards. )

Welcome to add to the above.

You are providing a great service to us "FRHI enthusiasts" over in the FM forum. I appreciate what you are saying and think your heart is in the right place. A joint program with benefits from both sides is highly desired.

I think what Fairmont fans fear is a program that is just bleh. Accor's current program sounds great on paper, but appears to be over promised and under executed.

I am taking a wait and see approach with regard to loyalty/club.
The one thing I am pleased with, increased footprint.
The one thing I am super concerned with, destruction of the "Fairmont Way." Going above and beyond and losing the culture that made FM great.

Admiral Ackbar Dec 10, 15 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by gilbertaue (Post 25843717)
I think there's a general lack of understanding of the Accor group.
I'd say wait and see.

As both an Accor Plat and Fairmont Plat, I understand both programs quite well. One is head and shoulders above the other, hint: it is not Accor.

I can't see anything good for FPC members from this merger. Completely understand how it makes sense to Accor though.

tris06 Dec 10, 15 6:33 pm

Its not that bad
 
From my recent experiences. Quite a few hotels in accor from Sofitel- Novotel do treat members well. European hotels seems to be the last weak link as change comes slowly there. But its slowly getting better.

Asian hotels are great 90-95% of the time.
Australia and NZ come at around 80%.

Here is an example.



Dear Mr......



Bonsoir! Warm greetings from Club Sofitel!



First of all, we want to thank you for choosing us once again for your next visit here in Macau. We are very much delighted to welcome you back with your grandmother.



I have noted that you have made a reservation on our Junior Suite on the 3rd of February, two (2) nights stay and check out on the 5th of February, 2016 under your name Mr.......



As a Le Club Accor Platinum member, we have upgraded your room from Junior Suite on our Prestige Suite without any additional charges. The same room as your last visit was well noted and will arrange accordingly on your stay.



We will also prepare a special gift to your grandmother and it will be set up on the room before your arrival.



We are looking forward to the pleasure of welcoming you back to Sofitel Macau at Ponte 16!



Should you need further inquiries, please don’t hesitate to let us know.





Best regards,




Nikkole SALVADOR

Senior Butler

Sofitel Macau At Ponte 16

gilbertaue Dec 10, 15 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar (Post 25846451)

Originally Posted by gilbertaue (Post 25843717)
I think there's a general lack of understanding of the Accor group.
I'd say wait and see.

As both an Accor Plat and Fairmont Plat, I understand both programs quite well. One is head and shoulders above the other, hint: it is not Accor.

I can't see anything good for FPC members from this merger. Completely understand how it makes sense to Accor though.

Look at the overall profile. The group grows on very high and high end properties with the merger. What you get on the opposite spectrum is the chance to find hotels in secondary cities where you would have, as a FPC member stayed in some other chain.
Just look at the demographics of the two forum groups. FPC is very strong in NAmericans/Canadians. Here at the Accor group many are also from australia/asia. That is because as a Accor member, I have the option to find a property in Surabaya, Makassar, Adelaide, Malacca, Wuxi, Bremen, Mont Saint Michel, etc etc. So that is what a overseas traveller from the FPC group will gain.
If a FPC traveller sticks to NAmerica, he/she will still have the same properties they have been used to.

Yes, the programme will change at some stage. But that's just tough luck.

Admiral Ackbar Dec 10, 15 9:06 pm


So that is what a overseas traveller from the FPC group will gain
Not trying to be pedantic, but I did not need them to merge to have access to all the Accor hotels that you listed. Just being egotistical, I do not see what I gain from this merger, only what I will lose.

Tough luck for me I guess, life will go on.


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