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Updates
  • 20231129 Update: The BPG form now has a checklist for your to ensure you have cross checked information.
  • 20231110 Update:
    - Looks like Accor Customer Service has rolled out a more "hands off" posture to making sure BPG's (when approved) are reflected. The language is now like: "The BPG was approved, the follow up with the hotel, contact..."
    - Properties in Macau are not part of the BPG program anymore


Introduction
Welcome to Accor's Best Price Guarantee ("BPG") policy, one of the industry's most generous price matching and discount policies!

I have had dozens of Accor bookings price-matched successfully across many brands, and of course a few of them being denied. I wanted to write about my experience as it could be quite frustrating and time consuming to get it right, read on!


What is the Accor BPG?
The Accor BPG allows you:
- to have your Accor.com rate price matched after sighting of a cheaper rate on a third-party website
- AND to receive either a 10 or 25% discount on the third-party rate (see Discount Rate)
All of that under certain conditions.

You can read the full Accor BPG terms in English at: https://all.accor.com/information/be...tions.en.shtml


Brands Eligible for the BPG

Per Article 2 of the BPG:
"The hotels covered by “Best Price Guarantee” are as follows:

All hotels in the Accor Group (Fairmont, Raffles, Swissôtel, Sofitel, So Sofitel, Sofitel Legend, Pullman, MGallery, Mövenpick, Grand Mercure, The Sebel, Novotel, Novotel Suites, Mercure, Adagio, Adagio Access, Jo&Joe, Ibis, Ibis Styles, Ibis budget, HotelF1, hôtels Orbis, 21C Museum Hotel, Orient Express), and hotels of certain partners (i.e. Mama Shelter, Hypark by Adagio)"

The following are not eligible for "Best Price Guarantee": 25Hours, Angsana, ArtSeries, BanyanTree, BreakFree, Cassia, Delano, Dhawa, Elan, Greet, Hanting, Hi inn, Hyde, Ji, Mantis, Mantra, Manxin, Mondrian, Onefinestay, PepperS, Rixos, Sbe, SLS, Starway, The House Of Originals, Tribe.

“Best Price Guarantee” does not apply to hotels in the Macao special administrative region."

Note that Banyan Tree maintains its own 20% price matching guarantee that's available at https://www.banyantree.com/best-price-guarantee
Learn more on the Banyan Tree Price matching at Banyan Tree Best Price Guarantee


Discount Rate
The discount rate is 25% for all properties included in the Brand Eligibible, except for Fairmont, Raffles and Swissôtel, which attract a 10% discount.


Data Points: third-Party Sites known to work for the BPG

I had claims approved for the following sites:

BPG 101

For your BPG claim to be accepted, the BPG Article 1.1 states that matched property on the third-party site needs to be "for the same hotel, for the same date(s), the same length of stay, at the same rate conditions (i.e. refundable or non-refundable, prepayment and deposit requirements, room only or with breakfast included, booking cancellation and change condition), the same type of room (identical category, size, beds, view or location) and the same number of people in the room"

Accor's Customer Service pays great attention to the conditions attached to your third-party booking, down the to the actual time (not just only the date) of the cancellation policy (e.g.: your claim may not be approved if the cancellation policy says September 28th, 18:00 on Accor.com and September 28th, 17:59 on the third-party website). Occupancy is also often overlooked. Even if for some region, the occupancy on your booking does not impact the room pricing, the occupancy needs to match, in writing, between your Accor.com booking and your third-party price.


BPG Process

To lodge a claim, you need to submit screenshots of a third-party booking site, that has the same room for the same dates (and other conditions, see BPG 101), at a lower price. These screenshots will need to who clearly the URL of the third-party site, as well as the time when they were taken. There is a 24-hour grace period between your Accor.com booking and the sighting of the cheaper rate on the third-party website.

Once submitted, your claim has a claim number (which is just a Customer Service ticket number), which you receive by email. Accor Customer Service then follows up to let you know of the status of your claim. There is no guaranteed time as to when Customer Service is due to get back to you.

If your claim is approved, Customer Service generally lets you know. They inform you they have requested the price-matched property to update your booking rate. Once the property does that, you receive an email with the subject: "Modification of your reservation <Name of Property> <Booking ID>" with the details of the new rate.

The application of the new rate usually follows the following rules:
  • The discount (either 10 or 25%, see Discount Rate) is applied on the "naked room rate", that is the rate free of government taxes, resort fee, "taxe de sejour", etc... Taxes are then applied on the discounted rate per the tax requirements in each country/region/location.
  • After applying the discount on your booking rate, the Property usually linearize the rate over the days on your booking so that the same rate will apply to all the nights in your stay even if the rate fluctuated in your original booking.


Q&A
  • Can I use the BPG if I have an Accor traveler card (e.g.: ALL PLUS Voyageur)? The BPG applies to ALL PLUS Voyageur Card holders, provided the third-party rate complies with the BPG requirements (See BPG 101). Given the discounts you may already benefit from with ALL PLUS, the chance of finding a third-party rate is slimmer, but not nonexistent. It may make economic sense to submit a BPG claim using "just" the Accor member rate.
  • Until when can I submit a BPG Claim? Per Article 4.2, "requests must be submitted within 24 hours following confirmation of the Eligible Booking [Accor.com booking] and no later than 48 hours before the planned arrival at the hotel.". "48 hours" here means that you can lodge a claim until 23:59 two days before your check-in date.
  • What happens if my BPG Claim is not processed prior to my stay starting? Should you have lodged on time and your BPG came to be approved after your stay has started, Customer Service will be in touch to organize a refund via the Property where you stayed (and paid full price)
  • What can I do if my claim is not answered within 2 weeks? You can:
    • Resubmit the same claim mentioning the Claim # of the original claim with the original documents
    • Send an email to [email protected] or [email protected] – they will sometimes create a new claim on your behalf or influence the original one
    • Send an email to [email protected] – Since 2023, these are the folks that Customer Service escalates claims to
  • I can't lodge a BPG Claim, my browser show a red banner when I submit one, what should I do? Lodge your BPG again in an Incognito or private browser window, that will fix it.
  • What if my claim isn't responded to by the time I check out? This is last resort, but I advise you lodge a chargeback with your credit card company. I had success doing that.


Beware: Accor Customer Service
I encountered countless time when Customer Service was negligent when process BPG claims:
- Rates from the third-party website are misread ("naked room rate" vs total amount, currency...)
- Customer Service tends to apply a blanket 10% discount on bookings (ignoring that most brands attract a 25% discount)

Some other times, the property would play some tactics:
- I had one property tell me that I could have booked a cheaper rate on Accor.com (but that was still higher than the third-party rate), effectively reneging the application of the BPG Claim (I did not push further).
- I had one property crediting a rate difference post-checkout via Accor points.



Tips & Tricks
  • If a claim has not been answered promptly (within 7 days), Accor Customer Service sometimes issues 2,000 Reward points. I keep asking every time this happens, and this is not always granted, but you can try.
  • If you have an Accor Traveler Card (e.g.: ALL PLUS Voyageur), to increase your chances of finding a lower rate, you can book the regular Accor member rate on Accor.com by signing out from your Accor account on the room selection page. The booking will still be attached to your Accor.com account (same email) AND you will receive the benefits attached to your status.
  • For your screenshots, make sure that a time shows. I always make sure that time shows in the menu bar of my OS, along with the timezone.
  • Using Skyscanner.com has greatly reduced the time for me to do searches.
  • I was able to get a BPG claim approved for a rate showing as "Complimentary Breakfast on Weekends" which is provided by the Accor status, but could be ground for rejection.


BPG Claim Sweet Spots
There are several brand sweet spots for BPG claim should you want to optimize, they all receive a 25% discount over your third-party sighting:
  • Sofitel
  • So Sofitel
  • Pullman


Common Pitfalls
I am able to reach a 95% success rate with my BPG, and this is my checklist:
  • Room type: are the room types strictly equivalent? Beware of the small variation in room type names (like street view, vs park view). Twin beds room or King bed room are two different types in the eyes of the BPG
  • Room rate: the room rate, that is the price of your booking exclusive of any government/local/resort taxes needs is what gets compared for the claim. Accor sometimes calculates taxes differently from third-parties (go figure!) and third-parties are also sometimes not including some taxes into the displayed price.
  • Occupancy: when you make a booking on Accor.com, you specify an occupancy (i.e.: the number of people who will stay in the room). That occupancy needs to show the same amount of adults on the third-party sighting.
  • Booking currency: make sure you are comparing stays with the same currencies. I submitted USD vs AUD (Australia Dollar) claims by mistake, leading to rejection.
  • Cancellation Policy Penalty: for when you compare cancellable bookings, the Accor BPG will apply all the way to the penalty. If Accor.com says the penalty for cancelling after a certain day/time is 1 night, the 3rd-party needs to have the same penalty.


Things I have not tried
  • Submitting a BPG for a Suite Night ("SN") booking


Banyan Tree Best Price Guarantee
Banyan Tree properties is not included into Accor's Best Price Guarantee, that means you cannot submit a claim for a BPG from Accor.com, following you booking a Banyan Tree property on accor.com. That being said, Banyan Tree has its own BPG for when you book on banyantree.com. There are few caveats though:
  • Banyan Tree BPG policy starts as soon as you find a lower rate (same room, same cancellation policy...). That means findings a rate that's lower by just $1 (or the local currency equivalent) will trigger the policy
  • Banyan Tree, when applying the policy, will shave off 20% off your rate, but will wave all Accor benefits should you be in an Accor tier. They may or may not let you know. You will also not be allows to earn/burn points from when the policy is applied.
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Accor/ ALL: experiences with best price guarantee

Old Apr 3, 2017, 2:13 am
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I was asked recently by someone in the APAC Snr Management what would be holding off LCAH members from submitting BRGs, and if the general opinion is that the "lure" to do so needs to be improved.

I denied that and mentioned that the main reason for people not to submit BRGs to Accorhotels is that the Customer Service is:

1) Slow to respond / if at all
2) Cumbersome method of submitting the BRG
3) Nonsensical responses from Customer service and often disputing obvious facts

I guess that sums it up?

If someone has had recent experiences with Accorhotels' BRG, please share it here.
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Old Apr 17, 2017, 4:57 am
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One question...

On secretescapes, I have found a candidate for a BRG. Prepaid rate for 2 guests, executive room, includes breakfast, complimentary bottle of champagne and fruit basket.

I cannot fully replicate this on Accor. I can book the best available rate for that room type. I can add the buffet breakfast on top of the room, but they don't allow you to order champagne at the time of booking.

Is this a good candidate for a BRG claim or no?
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 7:41 am
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Best price guaranteed

Anyone had to use the Accorhotel "Best price guaranteed" ?
https://www.accorhotels.com/best-pri...index.en.shtml

The 11th of may, I booked a trip for 3 nights in Frankfurt for September on AccoHotel Website.
2 Twin roms Extra Package (Free Cancellation up to 24h before trip, free breakfast...) for 936€ (468€ per room).

2 hours after that, I found a better price on http://www.havas-voyages.fr/
The same package for 274€ (137€ per room).

As there is a very big difference, I entered information on the claim form.
I received no feedback email at that time.

Since that moment, I called them several times to get a feedback and to be sure that this would be validated.
Every time, they tell me that my claim is taken into account, that they contacted their 2nd level service but they get no answer.

As a Silver Accor Member, I was expecting a bit more of consideration.
Anyone had to experience this?

What should I do? Cancel my Accor booking and keep my Havas booking?
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 12:18 pm
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BRG is discussed a length on this forum if you do a search. Much isn't complimentary about Accor's handling of BRG claims.

A recent thread as an example http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/accor...r-service.html
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 12:42 pm
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After four emails and a phone call, the difference was credited to my Visa about a month after the stay. Make sure you keep screen shots of the different hotel rates showing that they are the exact same types of rooms!
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by SullyofDoha
After four emails and a phone call, the difference was credited to my Visa about a month after the stay. Make sure you keep screen shots of the different hotel rates showing that they are the exact same types of rooms!
Thanks for your answer
Did you keep Accor Booking or you booked on the website you found the best price?

Because, I cannot afford to keep Acco booking at 950€ whereas the other booking is at 275€ and to hope that they will recredit the difference...

I have all the screenshots with me.
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by pitchoun64
Thanks for your answer
Did you keep Accor Booking or you booked on the website you found the best price?

Because, I cannot afford to keep Acco booking at 950€ whereas the other booking is at 275€ and to hope that they will recredit the difference...

I have all the screenshots with me.
Before I made the actual booking on the Accor site, I phoned Accor Customer Service and gave them the web address of the best rate so they could see the price difference. That way they could verify it was the same room type and date. Once they were comfortable that everything matched I had them create a customer service ticket number that acknowledged that I would be entitled to the better rate. The only catch was that I needed to book the current going rate on the Accor site. So, I had to carry the full price on my credit card until it was reimbursed to me. I hope that helps
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 12:37 pm
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I would contact the hotel itself.

It seems that Accor BRG team just forwards the claim to the hotel.

A hotel interested in keeping good relations with a customer might be more inclined to honor the BRG or at least match it, than the Accor customer service, which I have read is horrible...
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 10:19 pm
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I would almost not bother with accor's BRG.
Trying to get accor to honor their best rate 'guarantee' is more trouble than it is worth.
4 emails and a phone call paid 1 month after the stay for a pre-approved BRG is towards accor's good spectrum of performance.
This should be a hassle free process and only require your initial online application, but accor does not value its customers and therefore makes this process as difficult as possible.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by sinad
I would almost not bother with accor's BRG.
Trying to get accor to honor their best rate 'guarantee' is more trouble than it is worth.
4 emails and a phone call paid 1 month after the stay for a pre-approved BRG is towards accor's good spectrum of performance.
This should be a hassle free process and only require your initial online application, but accor does not value its customers and therefore makes this process as difficult as possible.
I totally agree!
I sent a last email yesterday. If I get no answer, I will call them to cancel my booking...
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by SullyofDoha
Before I made the actual booking on the Accor site, I phoned Accor Customer Service and gave them the web address of the best rate so they could see the price difference. That way they could verify it was the same room type and date. Once they were comfortable that everything matched I had them create a customer service ticket number that acknowledged that I would be entitled to the better rate. The only catch was that I needed to book the current going rate on the Accor site. So, I had to carry the full price on my credit card until it was reimbursed to me. I hope that helps
Yes It helps me a lot. When I called before making the booking they told me to do it first on the Accor website... It seems that it depends a lot on the person you get!

Originally Posted by Rasmus3s
I would contact the hotel itself.

It seems that Accor BRG team just forwards the claim to the hotel.

A hotel interested in keeping good relations with a customer might be more inclined to honor the BRG or at least match it, than the Accor customer service, which I have read is horrible...
I already contacted the hotel. First to see if they had a request from the Customer service.
They offered me a better price than the one I have on Accor booking but far from the one I got with Havas :
126€ per night per room => 756€ VS 274€
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:05 pm
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Also, when I wrote 'better rate', what I should have noted that they not only matched the better rate but they gave me the additional 10% off
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Old Jul 17, 2017, 1:11 am
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thanks for your feedback.
Even if they don't give me the 10% additional discount but If only They coiuld align the price on Havas Voyage...

No answer from the Customer service (even if they were supposed to reply me in 48hours...
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Old Aug 10, 2017, 9:38 am
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I've had both good and bad experiences with various BRGs through Hilton (decent but variable), SPG (usually good!), Hyatt (have seen success but often bait and switch), IHG (pretty horrible) and Marriott (just one but it was a success).
Accor? Umm.... no reply at all, TWICE in about 8 days. Ugh.
It's for the Sofitel Hamma Garden in Algiers.
Oh well.
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Old Aug 10, 2017, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by kyushuman
I've had both good and bad experiences with various BRGs through Hilton (decent but variable), SPG (usually good!), Hyatt (have seen success but often bait and switch), IHG (pretty horrible) and Marriott (just one but it was a success).
Accor? Umm.... no reply at all, TWICE in about 8 days. Ugh.
It's for the Sofitel Hamma Garden in Algiers.
Oh well.
After 3 months, I gave up...
I cancelled my booking with Accor! more than 3 times the price.
And no feedback from customer Service.
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