Originally Posted by
hserus
Passes and RTWs usually count stopovers, not actual connections. Something like the last flight at night that connects to a flight the next evening works out as well .. almost a stopover, but still counted as a connection. You have to start and end at the same place, not recross etc.
This information is wrong. Passes usually require one coupon per flight used - irrespective of any connection or stopover you make.
Originally Posted by
John MacCalman
I've blocked out an itinerary which might look at first glance a hell of a long way to travel to move round the three destinations but it produces 16,000+ base miles in my frequent flyer account - all for $600.
Here is the outline itinerary
Day 1
Hong Kong KE604 HKG 1225 ICN 1655
Seoul KE671 ICN 1810 KUL 2345
Day 3
Kuala Lumpur KE672 KUL 0110 ICN 0845
Seoul KE641 ICN 1605 SIN 2115
Day 6
Singapore NW6 SIN 0600 NRT 1415
Tokyo NW27 NRT 1905 BKK 2359
Since you fly on 6 different flights, you will need 6 coupons. Hence, the fare is not the USD600 + taxes for 3 coupons, but rather USD1128 + taxes for 6 coupons.
Here are the complete fare rules for the Skyteam Asia Airpass:
Code:
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAP-ADVANCE PURCHASE EXCURSION
RU.RULE APPLICATION
SKYTEAM ASIA PASS ON AF/CO/KE/KL/NW WITHIN AREA 3
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
WITHIN AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/CIRCLE-TRIP/ORIGIN SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
AF/CO/KE/KL/NW SHALL LIMIT NUMBER OF
PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT AT FARES
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GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT
NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE
NUMBER OF SEATS THAT EACH CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED
BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT.
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SURFACE TRANSPORTATION PERMITTED.
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FREQUENT FLYER PROGRAM MILEAGE UPGRADES WILL NOT
BE PERMITTED
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THE SKYTEAM ASIA PASS IS LIMITED TO MINIMUM 3
COUPONS
APPLICABLE FARE BASES
HE3A FOR 3 COUPONS
HE4A FOR 4 COUPONS
HE5A FOR 5 COUPONS
HE6A FOR 6 COUPONS
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IN ORDER TO PURCHASE SUPPLEMENTAL COUPONS FOR
SOUTH WEST PACIFIC TRAVEL A MINIMUM PURCHASE OF 3
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SKYTEAM ASIA PASS COUPONS MUST BE ISSUED
APPLICABLE FARE BASES FOR SOUTH WEST PACIFIC PASS
HESP1A FOR 1 COUPON
HESP2A FOR 2 COUPONS
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SOUTH WEST PACIFIC INCLUDES
AUSTRALIA / PAPUA NEW GUINEA / COOK ISLANDS / FIJI
/ GILBERT AND ELLICE ISLANDS / NEW CALEDONIA /
LOYALTY ISLANDS / NEW HEBRIDES / NEW ZEALAND /
SAMOA / SOCIETY ISLANDS / SOLOMON ISLANDS / TONGA
ISLANDS AS WELL AS INTERMEDIATE ISLANDS.
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APPLICABLE ROUTES
1/ ALL KOREAN DOMESTIC SECTORS
2/ KOREA-JAPAN
SEL - AOJ/AXT/FUK/HKD/KIJ/KMQ/KOJ/NGO/NGS/OIT/OKJ/
OSA/SPK/TYO
CJU - FUK/NGO/OSA/TYO
PUS - FUK/NGO/OSA/SPK/TYO
3/ KOREA-CHINA
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SEL - BJS/CAN/DLC/SHA/TSN/TAO/SHE/URC/WEH/YNT
PUS - SHA/SIA/TAO
CJU - BJS
CJJ - SAH
TAE - BJS
KWJ - SHA
4/ KOREA-SOUTH EAST ASIA/SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT
SEL/PUS/CJU/TAE - BKK
SEL - BKI/BOM/DPS/GUM/HAN/HKG/JKT/KTM/KUL/MNL/PEN
PNH/REP/SGN/SIN/TPE/ULN
PUS - GUM/HAN/HKG
5/ ALL KOREA-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC
6/ JAPAN-CHINA
TYO - BJS/CAN/SHA
7/ JAPAN-SOUTH EAST ASIA
TYO - BKK/GUM/HKG/MNL/SIN/SPN/TPE
NGO - GUM/MNL/SPN
OSA - GUM/SPN/TPE
FUK/HIJ/KIJ/OKJ/SDJ/SPK - GUM
8/ WITHIN SOUTH EAST ASIA
BKK - HAN/SGN/TPE
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JKT - KUL
GUM - DPS/HKG/MNL/PNI/ROR/SPN/TKK/TPE/YAP
PNI - TKK
ROR - MNL/YAP
MNL - SPN
9/ JAPAN-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC
OSA/TYO - NOU
10/ SOUTH EAST ASIA-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC
GUM - CNS
OTHER CONDITIONS
THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .
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MX.MAX STAY
TRAVEL FROM LAST SEGMENT IN AREA 3 MUST COMMENCE NO LATER
THAN 60 DAYS AFTER FIRST DEPARTURE IN AREA 3.
SR.SALES RESTRICT
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN AREA 3.
NOTE -
TICKET MUST BE ISSUED ON AF/AM/AZ/CO/DL/KE/KL/NW/
OK/SU STOCK ONLY.
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TR.TVL RESTRICTION
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 31MAR 08.
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AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
NOTE -
BOOKING CODES
H ON AF FLIGHTS
L ON CO FLIGHTS
H ON KE FLIGHTS
-- EXCEPTION V ON KE DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN KOREA
H ON KL FLIGHTS
Q ON NW FLIGHTS
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RESERVATION FOR THE ORIGINATING FLIGHT / ISSUANCE
OF TICKETS AND FULL PAYMENT MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE ON THE FIRST FLIGHT
COUPON AND PRIOR TO ARRIVAL IN ANY COUNTRY IN AREA
3
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RESERVATIONS FOR OTHER THAN THE ORIGINATING FLIGHT
MAY BE MADE ANY TIME BEFORE DEPARTURE OF EACH
FLIGHT.
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ONLY ONE TICKET AT THESE FARES WILL BE ISSUED WITH
EACH TRIP ORIGINATING FROM AREA 1 /AREA 2.
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THE PASSENGERS INTERCONTINENTAL TICKET NUMBER MUST
BE PRINTED IN THE ENDORSMENT BOX OF THE SKYTEAM
ASIA PASS COUPONS
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THE SKYTEAM ASIA PASS TICKET SHALL BE ISSUED
SEPARATELY FROM ANY TICKET ISSUED AT ANY OTHER
FARE BASIS.
FL.FLT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AF FLIGHTS 8087 THROUGH 8096.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
CO FLIGHTS 001 THROUGH 889.
OR
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THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
CO FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 9999.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
NW FLIGHTS 077 THROUGH 078
KE FLIGHT 847.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 848
KE FLIGHT 881
KE FLIGHT 882.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHTS 885 THROUGH 888
KE FLIGHT 981.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
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ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 982
KE FLIGHT 5671
KE FLIGHT 5672.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 5675
KE FLIGHT 5676.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHTS 5681 THROUGH 5684.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHTS 5691 THROUGH 5694.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHTS 5701 THROUGH 5799.
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OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 5831
KE FLIGHT 5832
KE FLIGHT 5859.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 5860
KE FLIGHT 5871
KE FLIGHT 5872.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 5875
KE FLIGHT 5876
KE FLIGHT 5893.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
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KE FLIGHT 5894
KE FLIGHT 6707
KE FLIGHT 6708.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 6709
KE FLIGHT 6710.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 6835
KE FLIGHT 6836
KE FLIGHT 8885.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
KE FLIGHT 8886.
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
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ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN.
NOTE -
FOR KOREAN DOMESTIC TRAVEL INFANT WILL BE
PERMITTED AT NO CHARGE.
ONLY ONE FREE INFANT WILL BE PERMITTED PER ADULT.
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AD.AGTS DISCOUNTS
NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
OD.OTHER DISCOUNTS
NOTE -
A FARE DISCOUNT OF USD100 PER DOMESTIC SECTOR IN
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KOREA SHALL APPLY TO THE ASIA PASS COUPON FARES.
SO.STOPOVERS
STOPOVER ALLOWED ONLY ONCE AT THE SAME POINT.
NOTE -
HOWEVER A POINT MAY BE TRANSITED MORE THAN ONCE IF
FOR CONNECTING PURPOSES.
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THE POINTS OF ORIGIN AND DESTINATION ON THE
SKYTEAM ASIA PASS FARE DO NOT COUNT AS STOPOVER
POINTS.
EL.ELIGIBILITY
NOTE -
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE APPLY TO PASSENGERS
HOLDING INTERNATIONAL ROUND TRIP TICKETS
ORIGINATING FROM AREA 1 / AREA 2 VIA AF/AZ/CO/DL/
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/KE/KL/NW/OK/SU FLIGHTS.
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THE AIR PASS IS NOT TO BE SOLD IN CONJUNCTION WITH
ID OR AD TICKETS.
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PASSENGERS MUST PROVIDE PROOF OF ELIGIBILITY AT
THE TIME OF TICKETING.
TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
NON ENDORSABLE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
PE.PENALTIES
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 100.00/KRW 100000 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW.
WAIVED FOR ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY
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MEMBER.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 100.00/KRW 100000 FOR CANCEL.
NOTE -
THE AMOUNT OF REFUND WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE NORMAL FARE FOR
TRANSPORTATION USED LESS USD 100.00/KRW 100000
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CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 100.00/KRW 100000 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
VOLUNTARY REROUTING IS PERMITTED VIA AF/CO/KE/KL/
NW SERVICES ONLY.
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TICKETS MAY BE REISSUED TO ALTER THE ORIGINAL
ROUTING OR TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF COUPONS
PROVIDED
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- THE MAXIMUM VALIDITY PERIOD HAS NOT ELAPSED
- TRAVEL ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET HAS NOT BEEN
COMPLETED
- THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE REVISED ITINERARY IS
RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN. ANY ADDITIONAL
COLLECTION IS MADE.
INVOLUNTARY CHANGES
INVOLUNTARY CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
INVOLUNTARY REROUTING IS PERMITTED VIA AF/CO/KE/
KL/NW SERVICES ONLY.
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MD.MISCELLANEOUS DATA
NOTE -
THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
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ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .
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