so according to the hypothetical example that aepilot just gave, it would be useless to ask the agents what the wheels up time would be since everything starts at blocked out time...including the ATC hold.......hypothetically speaking.
however, hypothetically looking at JS*LGA/flow shows no ATC delays this AM.....however, FILFlight# shows LGA ATC delay....wonder which would be correct.
Oh wait, HNN Reporter Rally Samparas is saying up to 1hr delays so far at NY airports....I'll trust him. Not the guys who have been in the industry for really long time.
I'm done with this tennis match. Its not going anywhere when two people are correct in what they are saying.