Originally Posted by craz
Basically Intl flights get PRIORTY in circumstances like yesterdays BOTH for Incoming and Outgoing.
You know that. I know that. Ground delays due to this should have been anticipated by B6, and they should have fueled their planes accordingly.
Originally Posted by craz
I do put some of the BLAME onto the OP for NOT having rebooked themselves on Fri or Sat or even Yesterday!!, thats what I did for my parents who were suppose to return on that CO flight I mentioned above, I rebooked them for Tues on sat night. Yesterday Weds was the earilest available. And my father needed to be back for work today.
We flew into JFK on Friday morning. At that time, the forecast was for 6-8" of snow ending before dawn on Sunday. Because our flight left Sunday at 7:05 p.m., rebooking for a Friday return would have been ridiculous and rebooking for a Saturday return would have put us into when the snow was forecast. It wasn't until Saturday afternoon that forecasts began to indicate the snowfall could last as late as noon Sunday. By the time the forecasts had the snowfall spreading into Sunday afternoon, B6 had nothing available before Tuesday.
With all due respect, those of you who are quick to fault me for not rebooking as early as Friday are forgetting the original predictions, in terms of the timing and magnitude of the snowfall. I chose not to do so, but faced with the same circumstances, I doubt many others would have either.
Originally Posted by craz
OP last yr I was on a delayed CO flight EWR-LAS that finally left the gate only to hear we now must get Deiced as the weather has changed as we were waiting for our Delay to open up. So we are told we are #6 for Deicing some 5 hrs later we get Deiced. Why so long any Intl flight that was heading out got PRIORTY over Us. If I remember correctly we were orginally set for departure at around 5pm, not the best time even on a Sunny summer day at EWR, bearly had enough time to get my rental at LAS and drive to LAX to catch my flight back to PHL was doing 2 Runs 1 within the other. PHL-LAX and LAS-SAV.
But your flight made it to your desitnation after the delay, didn't it?
Originally Posted by craz
again what the OP experienced with B6 , I know a number of people personally experienced with CO yesterday. A friend who was on the 89 to PEK was told yep its on time 12:10pm departure as the snow was falling it did finally leave at 9:30pm. Flight 84 from TLV was diverted to CLE so from their take-off to getting to EWR 4 hrs late, they were on a plane for 17 1/2 hrs.They took off from TLV at 4 pm NY time so CO knew that a Blizzard was heading straight in and they would have to be diverted.
And their flight made it to their destination after its delay, too, didn't it?
Being delayed 5+ hours and making it to your destination is bad. Sitting on a taxiway for 8+ hours and going nowhere is far worse.
Originally Posted by craz
I can go on and on. Maybe B6 is at fault for not having simply CANCELLED ALL of their flights. But Im sure that too would ahve gotten peopel steamed to hear that another carrier was able to take off why didnt B6 wait and see themselves. Yesterday was simply a Lose-Lose sit for ALL Carriers.
A few points:
- I don't fault B6 for cancelling flights. If anything, I fault them for not cancelling some of them sooner, and telling some pax (according to those pax) that the only way they would get out of JFK before next Sunday was to go to the airport yesterday and stand-by.
- I wasn't questioning why B6 didn't interrupt operations to get our planes back to the terminal. There were no B6 planes loading/unloading at the gates at that time. They were all empty.
- The events I outlined in the OP happened hours after the snow ended, not during the blizzard.
- We all experience delays. But being left on a taxiway for 8+ hours and ending up where you started is beyond what anyone should have to endure.