yep, my next trip to LAS is going to be via AA since UA has no F service.. and once MIA becomes Ted i'll be doing the same. its sad...i do like UA and wanted to contuine my biz with them but if they want to become this discount airline like southwest and frontier without F seats they are going to loose some money...but i do like flying them to SFO and LAX due to the 3class cabins...so i'll stick to that.