Well, I'm planning for a group of 3 an FRWSTAR itinerary, but without travelling to or transiting the U.S. And it just appears to be impossible to get the major intercontinental segments that offer F class!

Part A:
As far as transatlantic segments go,
1. I cannot find a single * flight that offers First class into Canada from Europe. (The LH flights to YYZ and YVR are both 2 class now.)
2. One option I could find was FRA-MEX-YYZ, with the FRA-MEX offering F.
3. Or a RG/LH flight from LHR/FRA to GRU/GIG

Part B:
Transpacific without U.S. seems even tougher.
1. AFAIK, the only SQ flight into Canada, ICN-YVR is 2-class.
2. Could not find any 3 class * flights from Asia to Mexico
3. Could not find any 3 class * flights from Asia to Central/South America
4. Could not find any 3 class * flights from New Zealand / Australia to Canada
5. Could not find any 3 class * flights from New Zealand / Australia to Mexico
6. Could not find any 3 class * flights from New Zealand / Australia to South America

Since I'm looking at any flights that would operate First class on these routes. So airlines possible would be: NZ, NH, OZ, LH, TG, SQ or RG.

So for all you knowledgeable FTer's: Is there ANY solution to the transpacific problem, i.e. getting an F flight without travelling to or transiting the U.S.

And going by their recent popularity, a Chupa Chup can be offered as reward to the Fter with the best solution!

Thanks a heap.

cheers
AJ