Originally Posted by
Circusplaza
If a person is willing to give 50k avios at the counter or pay from PE to J $600, I still think it is a good deal for IB.
I specially remember a flight BOS - MAD like 4 years back that the plane was almost empty, in Y people sleeping in the 4 seats middle rows and I could see only 2 people in J. Since that day, where I asked for a PUPG or with avios and they declined both I am fuming with IB...
Your logic is short term. If one business traveller doesn't pay $3000 for a walk-up J fare and takes their chances on a $600 upgrade, IB needs to upgrade 5 people just to break even. Given the internal economics of Avios, even more Avios upgrades would be needed. This isn't a good deal for IB.
And FWIW, most other airlines aren't going to give you an empty J seat internationally either, so if you are still fuming with IB you just haven't experienced the same thing with every other airline yet...