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Old Nov 19, 19, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by JimInOhio View Post
No, the conversation hasn't been about "supersizing". It's been about resistance to downsizing. Not a single 777 was outfitted with 10-across seating when the aircraft first came out and people thought the standard 9-across was fine. It was only years later that airlines (many, not all) decided to cram 10 seats in and that's what people don't like.
yes, people thought 9-across was fine. If it had been initially standardized at 8, and went to 9, you can bet people would be complaining just as much. Most carriers around the world have either already switched to 10 across in Y, or are doing it. DL Is an exception, but given it is such a small part of the fleet (what...17 or 18?), it probably isnít much of an advantage unless you happen to be flying one of the handful of routes where DL flies it.

Look at the 787, which was designed for 8 across, but is almost exclusively flown in a 9 across configuration. JAL I believe is the only exception. Itís tight, sure, but if you need to fly a route in a 787, thatís really the only choice.

The fact is, most travelers focus specifically on price. They only complain about things like seat size after they choose the cheapest price, and then sit in it. Then next time, they would do the same. Itís not everyoneís preference - but enough of a majority that thatís the way carriers are configuring their planes. If there was enough of a majority willing to pay $X extra for their flights to get a bigger seat, airlines would do it. And to and extent, they do. Thatís why you can buy E+ (I realize that only legroom, not width), Premium Economy or Business. Or F on the carriers that still offer it. So the bigger seats are there for the minority that are willing to pay.

I donít fly DL much (at least, right now), so donít know the general E to C+ Price difference is, but IME, the E+ prices on UA seem like a lot to me. When Iíve seen it, itís been about $24 on pretty short flights (something like ORD-YYZ, so about 1.5 hours) - which isnít bad. But to see > $100 on mid-con routes (Iíve sent that on routes like IAH-SJC OR CVG-SFO, and even SFO-DEN at ~$95), seems like too much. If it came with the extras like on DL (free drinks, snack plates, etc.) I think it would be reasonable.
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