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Old Mar 1, 19, 9:03 pm
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Exec_Plat
 
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge View Post
Listen to ATC recordings on YouTube. Pilots need approval for all ground movement. They simply can't drive off to and from the gate as they please. In fact when you listen to ground controllers at large airports there's often testy communication with pilots. If the controller has a tarmac full of planes he/she likely won't let an aircraft push early.
"Leaving the gate" seems to be "when the AA agent closes the plane door"

Not necessarily driving around the tarmac

(Look at the records filed with FAA on flightstats.com, you can see planned, actual times for all sorts of things)

So a pilot CAN 'depart the gate' (in terms of that metric that AA posts publicly) without moving. Then sit there for as long as AA wants, before the tower clears them to move into 'their turf".

IMO
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