Originally Posted by
MSPeconomist
Yet this is how MR has always treated PP status. It's a fancy label (and sometimes an annual gift of some sort), but there were never any associated published benefits and in fact some hotels didn't know what it was and even tried to assert that it was lower than regular MR Plat.
PP was an unpublished status that most hotel staff were not educated about. People joked about how the PP benefits page was a 404 (HTTP error code for "file not found", as in the document linked didn't actually exist). This is different. The 75 night level as a distinct level with published criteria to qualify and benefits to exist is now public as new PP, unlike old PP. It's not even like there was a page under legacy MR saying "
The exact benefits of PP are not published, but it's invitation only and provides exclusive invite only benefits to our top customers". A lot of hotels didn't just know any better.
New PP provides for a few things under the terms, namely for now, the Mileageplus status match to silver (under the RewardsPlus terms), the 75% bonus on points vs. 50% on plat [50 night level], upgrade consideration at Ritz Carlton (only mentioned in the T&Cs, not the benefit charts), and the 48 hour guarantee virtually no one uses because $$$$ rack rates.
To try to argue the migration of the 75 night level to a new name with published benefits/existence is the same about the
double secret probation secret unpublished status of PP which had no published benefits or existence and they just sent you a solar charger or whatever once a year is apples and oranges...
Originally Posted by
CJKatl
Just to state the obvious, your PP with Ambassador is based on current, not LT status. I have no current status, only LTPP and it shows I have P benefits. That seems to be the consistent experience for those without current PP status.
Yes, the debate is not current status showing properly, it's over what level should be showing to LTPPs who have not hit the current PP criteria of 75 nights a year.
To be clear to others: @
CJKatl position is per terms, that by the "letter of the law" (de facto), there may be a higher rank in title only (LTPP vs LTP) where LTPP only confers the benefits of current plats, minus the SNAs/choice benefit, and therefore LTPP confers no benefit over LTP. If this were true, it would serve as an explanation as to why many people have reported showing as current plat/LTPP, and that this may be an intended behavior explicitly sanctioned and intended by Marriott.