Originally Posted by
kb9522
How many people died on the Asiana flight referenced above due to passengers removing their luggage? Enough of the hyperbole.
And not a single person that I've read has advocated for indiscriminately pausing to remove luggage. It's about understanding the situation and reacting appropriately.
So if nobody died in one case, then it's OK?
No it's not. That's just stupid. Fires are unpredictable and can spread very quickly in planes. It's an obvious disaster waiting to happen.
It's not rocket science. If it's an emergency evacuation, get off the plane. Don't take your luggage or delay in any sort of way; get off the plane by the fastest means possible.
What we're seeing here is people who are so self-obsessed and entitled that they think that retrieving their gizmos is more important than other people's lives. We know this exists in the real world, but it's still shocking to see that people advocate taking their luggage in an emergency. Which, yes, they are.
You try to dodge by saying that it wouldn't be 'indiscriminate', as in your original post on the topic:
Originally Posted by
kb9522
Re: the OP... I would also consider grabbing my carry on depending on the situation. The only people who need to be "beaten senseless" are the emotional train wrecks who can't deal with a little stress.
You say 'depending on the situation'. But as has been pointed out, you don't have the information to know exactly what the situation is. Your typical response is to just go on using the rolleyes smilie as if it's some kind of logical argument for your case.
What we see in your OP and what we've seen since then is an incredible arrogance that you know better than other people, that you'll magically know what the situation is and therefore will be able to make life and death decisions for other people. No, you don't. And no number of rolleyes smilies prove that you do.
Look, I can only judge you by what you post here. And if you post arguments like 'Nobody died on the Asiana flight', then that argument is simply stupid. Based on that, there's no evidence that you have the mental capacity to make decisions like whether to stop for luggage or not, even in a calm situation of a hypothetical discussion. Even less so in a real emergency. On top of that, you simply attempt to discount 'stress' as if stress isn't a natural reaction in an airplane emergency. You don't know what you are talking about, even now. You're the very last person who should be making decisions about what to do in an emergency situation. You need to follow instructions and get off the plane with no delay.
Originally Posted by http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36977903
"Jump! Jump! Jump! Leave your bags behind. Jump and slide. Jump and slide!"
You can hear the anxiety in the flight attendant's voice as she tries to herd passengers off the Emirates Airline Boeing 777-300
that crash-landed at Dubai International Airport on Wednesday.
She realises that they are still in mortal danger, yet many of the people on board are wasting time grabbing bags from the overhead lockers.
And from 'Aviation Expert' Ashley Nunes, from the same article.
"Studies show that the likelihood of a cabin being consumed by fire increases significantly after 90 seconds," aviation expert Ashley Nunes told me.
"But those evacuation tests don't account for people trying to take their luggage with them."
One minute, 23 seconds into the longer video of the evacuation, a passenger pans the camera over to film the engine fire. In your head you're screaming at them to get away! Part of the aircraft did actually explode not long afterwards.
The efficiency with which the crew cleared the cabin undoubtedly saved lives.
"We are beginning to see a pattern - when there are crashes, people take their luggage," Ashley Nunes says.
In September last year a British Airways plane caught fire on the runway in Las Vegas. You can
see in the report from the time that in the rush to get off, some passengers have still taken their bags with them.
In July 2013 an Asiana plane crash-landed in San Francisco. Again, the
photos show that passengers have grabbed their bags during the evacuation.
"The key to keeping people safe is speed - getting your bag slows things down," Mr Nunes says.