Originally Posted by Perche

I agree. I would just add that on a 4 day trip, you don’t really have time for day trips. Rome is not a day trip from Milan. Back and forth it amounts to a day on a train. You might have time to get on the local train to Varenna, and take the ferry over to Bellagio, but it depends on the time of the year. You can do that now, can’t do it next month.