Seems there was a shot when Air New Zealand owned a bunch of VA... Qantas does have a nice offering but I just can't get behind AA in the US... and DL is ok but they fly garbage buckets and for biz to northern europe you need lh/sas, klm/af isn't bad but their hubs aren't ideal.. being based out of HNL/OGG for 1/3 year and TVC for 1/3... UA really is the only option... so i've been shooting points over to AY (Finnair) as a few months are spent in the Helsinki.... but not the ideal scenario.. example would be TVC-ORD-VIE-BRU-ORD-TVC the other day to get a few meetings in across two cities... only *a could accommodate this on one ticket.

But go down under and you are sol..

Though DL can get me, TVC-HEL about 5-8hrs quicker (unless i go LH metal)... its nuts as OGG-HEL can be as quick as TVC-HEL, even though i'm starting at the half way point...