exDUB ILR28AP Advanced Purchase Fare
This is one of the long running advanced purchase exDUB fares. It is obviously not as cheap as one of the sale fares, but it is still a very good price. There are two advanced purchase fares, this one which does not allow stopovers, and
ILN8S4E1 which allows stopovers at 75 each. In all other respects these two advanced purchase fares seem to be pretty much the same and have the same base fares.
The fare does cover travel dates for late 2016. However, if you are looking for late 2016 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days. Therefore at the moment AA flights are only for sale up to mid-November and not available for any of the travel dates for late November onwards. If you try and price anything which would have to include AA flights for end of November it will simply say no flights on itamatrix. Obviously there is no issue pricing a BA metal only itinerary such as DUB-LHR-JFK for late November 2016 and you can do this online at BA.com.
AA flights should be released daily, and by the time we do get to mid-February AA flights will be available until January 2017.
As this is an advanced purchase fare there is no end date or ticket by date.
Example prices for Summer 2016, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:
JFK - 1,538 (~£1,118)
MIA - 1,601 (~£1,163)
ORD - 1,725 (~£1,254)
LAS - 1,751 (~£1,272)
LAX - 1,854 (~£1,347)
HNL - 1,834 (~£1,333) (priced with LHR, JFK, and PHX connections)
There is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB to LCY connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.
There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by £80-100 due to mileage restrictions.
Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. Bear ni mind there is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, but this would get you 20+20 TPs so no more than DUB-LHR.
Travel from inbound transatlantic sector must commence no earlier than the first Sunday after departure of the outbound transatlantic sector.
This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from HNL on Friday night arriving in PHX on Saturday morning, do PHX-JFK during Saturday, have a night in NYC on Saturday night and then do your TATL on Sunday.
Travel from last stopover must commence no later than midnight 12 months after departure from fare origin.
Stopovers not permitted on the fare component.
2 transfers allowed per region in each direction, so 2 in Europe and 2 in the US each way.
An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights is counted as a transfer and not a stopover.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1360 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 1200 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that you don't do JFK-LAX where you can only get 140 TPs, and XXX-LAX/PHX is on a two class > 2,000 mile flight.
If you look at post 1 of this thread
or this post there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.
AA vs BA flight numbers for TPs & avios:
- For two class domestic flights in the US you need to book under the AA flight number to get the domestic first TP (210/60). Booking under the BA codeshare will only get you business TPs (140/40) even though you will be in the same seats.
- For three class transcons (A321T) on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO routes it doesn't matter since you book in to the middle business cabin anyway, not the first cabin.
- For international flights it doesn't matter, it is 140/40 TPs whatever flight number you book under so AA or oneworld codeshare.
- Avios will always be more under a BA flight number, but not much. Avios under an AA flight is 125% miles flown, and under a BA codeshare is 150% of miles flown. Tier avios bonuses are the same under AA or BA.
Permitted
28 March through 12 April or
25 June through 22 August or
23 November through 30 November or
18 December through 04 January
on the outbound transatlantic sector. Season is based on date of origin.
Note that the travel dates refer to the first transatlantic sector which means your TATL, and it also means you can do DUB-LHR on the 24 June and then the LHR-JFK on 25 June.
Confirmed reservations for all sectors are required at least 28 days before departure.
Cancellation and change conditions:
Code:
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE
CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED.CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGES
WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US -
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTION.
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THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
FOR ADULT AND CHILD
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
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WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS WILL APPLY
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A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
RESERVATION CHANGE
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PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND
WILL RECEIVE NO REFUND OF THE FARE. CHANGES WILL
NOT BE PERMITTED.
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WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED - AND - ANY CHANGE
FEE APPLIED
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WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL BE
MADE.
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REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
AS THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED
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//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE
NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/
TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY/BOOKING
CLASSES/SEASONALITY ETC....
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2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
LOWER.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES
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//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT
THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET
ISSUE DATE.