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Old May 1, 2014, 10:46 am
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Dave Noble
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I would write back to EK indicating that the document that it referenced has no relevence since it just a draft proposal plus also refer to case C‑549/07 Friederike Wallentin-Hermann where Alitalia tried to defend on technical fault being extraordinary

where the ECJ ruled that
Originally Posted by ECJ
1. Article 5(3) of Regulation (EC) No 261/2004 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 11 February 2004 establishing common rules on compensation and assistance to passengers in the event of denied boarding and of cancellation or long delay of flights, and repealing Regulation (EEC) No 295/91, must be interpreted as meaning that a technical problem in an aircraft which leads to the cancellation of a flight is not covered by the concept of ‘extraordinary circumstances’ within the meaning of that provision, unless that problem stems from events which, by their nature or origin, are not inherent in the normal exercise of the activity of the air carrier concerned and are beyond its actual control. The Convention for the Unification of Certain Rules for International Carriage by Air, concluded in Montreal on 28 May 1999, is not decisive for the interpretation of the grounds of exemption under Article 5(3) of Regulation No 261/2004.

2. The frequency of the technical problems experienced by an air carrier is not in itself a factor from which the presence or absence of ‘extraordinary circumstances’ within the meaning of Article 5(3) of Regulation No 261/2004 can be concluded.

3. The fact that an air carrier has complied with the minimum rules on maintenance of an aircraft cannot in itself suffice to establish that that carrier has taken ‘all reasonable measures’ within the meaning of Article 5(3) of Regulation No 261/2004 and, therefore, to relieve that carrier of its obligation to pay compensation provided for by Articles 5(1)(c) and 7(1) of that regulation.
( see http://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.j...n&num=C-549/07 )

I would suggest that the European Court of Justice's ruling may hold more weight than a draft proposal

EK's approach seems to be no different to BA which seems to be trying to class all problems as extraordinary until someone goes to moneyclaim.gov.uk and then suddenly realises that compensation is due. Have a look at the EU261 thread on the BA forum for examples

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