Old Aug 28, 13, 10:44 pm
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For the people wondering what's going on, here's a very concrete, specific example:

In Sabre you can pull up a very detailed breakout of all of the price of a ticket. You can also force Sabre to price (and even issue) a ticket on another airline's ticket stock. Bad things may happen if you issue a ticket on the stock of an airline on which no segments will be flown (for example, an all-SkyTeam ticket issued on AA stock).

Here's a hypothetical itinerary to South Africa, BOS-JFK-JNB and back on SA, with some AA segments:

Code:
*I                                                             
 1 AA1673S 20FEB Q BOSJFK SS1   715A  830A /DCAA /E             
 2 SA 204W 20FEB Q JFKJNB SS1  1040A  825A  21FEB F /DCSA /E    
 3 SA 203W 02MAR S JNBJFK SS1   815P  745A  03MAR M /DCSA /E    
 4 AA1786S 03MAR M JFKBOS SS1   400P  525P /DCAA /E
Price comes out to a base fare of $825.00, total $1,337.50, as follows:

Code:
WP                                                             
20FEB DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02SEP/2359        
       BASE FARE                     TAXES             TOTAL    
 1-    USD825.00                    512.50XT      USD1337.50ADT 
    XT    386.00YR      34.40US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            5.00XA       7.50AY      31.80ZA      18.40WC       
            1.50EV       1.90UM      13.50XF                    
          825.00                    512.50           1337.50TTL 
ADT-01  WLRT2US                                                 
 BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00    
 END ROE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                               
NON REF/SPEX                                                    
VALIDATING CARRIER - SA                                         
BAG ALLOWANCE     -BOSJNB-02P/SA                                
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JNBBOS-02P/SA                                
CARRY ON ALLOWANCE                                              
BOSJFK JFKBOS-02P/AA                                            
01/UP TO 45 LINEAR INCHES/115 LINEAR CENTIMETERS                
01/UP TO 36 LINEAR INCHES/92 LINEAR CENTIMETERS                 
JFKJNB JNBJFK-SA-CARRY ON ALLOWANCE UNKNOWN-CONTACT CARRIER    
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PSGR TYPE ADT                                                   
FARE  USD   825.00                                              
TAX   USD    512.50XT                                           
TOTAL USD     1337.50                                           
BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00END R
OE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                     
XT 386.00YR 34.40US 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA                        
XT 7.50AY 31.80ZA 18.40WC 1.50EV 1.90UM                         
XT 13.50XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                    
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN PHX ///////////////  
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
                     825.00    -    TOTAL NUC                   
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION------------------------ 
      386.00        /YRF SERVICE FEE - FUEL                     
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JFK* *SA*                         
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JNB* *SA*                         
       34.40        US/US2 US INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX 
MD                                                             
          17.20:USD    17.20 *JFK* *SA*                        
          17.20:USD    17.20 *JNB* *SA*                         
        5.50        US/YC  US CUSTOMS USER FEE                  
           5.50:USD     5.50 *JNB* *SA*                         
        7.00        US/XY  US FEDERAL INSPECTION FEE            
           7.00:USD     7.00 *JNB* *SA*                         
        5.00        US/XA  US APHIS USER FEE                    
           5.00:USD     5.00 *JNB* *SA*                         
        7.50        US/AY  US SECURITY FEE                      
           2.50:USD     2.50 *BOS*                              
           2.50:USD     2.50 *JFK*                              
           2.50:USD     2.50 *JFK*                              
       31.80        ZA/ZA  PASSENGER CHARGE                     
          31.80:ZAR      328 *JNB* *SA*                         
       18.40        ZA/WC  AIR PASSENGER TAX                    
          18.40:ZAR      190 *JNB* *SA*                         
        1.50        ZA/EV  PASSENGER SAFETY CHARGE              
           1.50:ZAR       16 *JNB* *SA*                         
        1.90        ZA/UM  PASSENGER SERVICES AND SECURITY CHAR
MD                                                             
           1.90:ZAR       20 *JNB* *SA*                        
       13.50        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGES           
           4.50:USD     4.50 *BOS*                              
           4.50:USD     4.50 *JFK*                              
           4.50:USD     4.50 *JFK*                              
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION -------------- 
 1.0000000000  USD-ROE  EFF 20SEP01*INDEF                       
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ---------------------------------- 
 1ZAR:10.328300000000USD                                        
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE --------------------------------------- 
  PU 01 - SPECIAL ROUND TRIP                                    
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Note the $386 "YR" fuel surcharge. Also note that SA is the "validating carrier"--which means that the ticket would be issued on SA's ticket stock.

Pricing the itinerary on AA's ticket stock (some unhelpful lines removed):

Code:
WPAAA                                                          
20FEB DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02SEP/2359        
       BASE FARE                     TAXES             TOTAL    
 1-    USD825.00                    512.50XT      USD1337.50ADT 
    XT    386.00YR      34.40US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            5.00XA       7.50AY      31.80ZA      18.40WC       
            1.50EV       1.90UM      13.50XF                    
          825.00                    512.50           1337.50TTL 
ADT-01  WLRT2US                                                 
 BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00    
 END ROE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                               
NON REF/SPEX                                                    
VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA                                

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PSGR TYPE ADT                                                   
FARE  USD   825.00                                              
TAX   USD    512.50XT                                           
TOTAL USD     1337.50                                           
BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00END R
OE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                     
XT 386.00YR 34.40US 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA                        
XT 7.50AY 31.80ZA 18.40WC 1.50EV 1.90UM                         
XT 13.50XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                    
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN PHX ///////////////  
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
                     825.00    -    TOTAL NUC                   
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION------------------------ 
      386.00        /YRF SERVICE FEE - FUEL                      
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JFK* *SA*                         
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JNB* *SA*                         
       34.40        US/US2 US INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX 
Note that the fuel surcharge is still there--same price when ticketed on AA.

Now, let's price on AA stock, but with a hypothetical issue date of August 27 (before AA's policy change):

Code:
WPAAAB27AUG13                                                 
20FEB DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 01SEP/2359        
       BASE FARE                     TAXES             TOTAL    
 1-    USD825.00                    127.20XT       USD952.20ADT 
    XT     34.40US       5.50YC       7.00XY       5.00XA       
            7.50AY      32.10ZA      18.60WC       1.60EV       
            2.00UM      13.50XF                                 
          825.00                    127.20            952.20TTL 
ADT-01  WLRT2US                                                 
 BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00    
 END ROE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                               
NON REF/SPEX                                                    
VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA                               

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PSGR TYPE ADT                                                   
FARE  USD   825.00                                              
TAX   USD    127.20XT                                           
TOTAL USD      952.20                                           
BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00END R
OE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                     
XT 34.40US 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 7.50AY                          
XT 32.10ZA 18.60WC 1.60EV 2.00UM 13.50XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5      
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN PHX ///////////////  
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
                     825.00    -    TOTAL NUC                   
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION------------------------ 
       34.40        US/US2 US INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX  
          17.20:USD    17.20 *JFK* *SA*                         
          17.20:USD    17.20 *JNB* *SA*                         
        5.50        US/YC  US CUSTOMS USER FEE                  
           5.50:USD     5.50 *JNB* *SA*                        
Note the same base fare of $825, but no fuel surcharge. Ticket comes out to be $386 cheaper, and with a simple parameter added to the ticketing command you can actually ticket on AA stock, at this price. (Sabre's autopricing guarantee doesn't cover changing the validating carrier to avoid fuel surcharges, so you may get hit with a debit memo for the amount, but in my (not very experienced) opinion that wouldn't be likely to happen. )

And for the sake of completeness, pricing on the default SA stock, on August 27:

Code:
WPB27AUG13                                                     
20FEB DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 01SEP/2359        
       BASE FARE                     TAXES             TOTAL    
 1-    USD825.00                    513.20XT      USD1338.20ADT 
    XT    386.00YR      34.40US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            5.00XA       7.50AY      32.10ZA      18.60WC       
            1.60EV       2.00UM      13.50XF                    
          825.00                    513.20           1338.20TTL 
ADT-01  WLRT2US                                                 
 BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00    
 END ROE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                               
NON REF/SPEX                                                    
VALIDATING CARRIER - SA                                          

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PSGR TYPE ADT                                                   
FARE  USD   825.00                                              
TAX   USD    513.20XT                                           
TOTAL USD     1338.20                                           
BOS AA X/NYC SA JNB M412.50SA X/NYC AA BOS M412.50NUC825.00END R
OE1.00 XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                     
XT 386.00YR 34.40US 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA                        
XT 7.50AY 32.10ZA 18.60WC 1.60EV 2.00UM                         
XT 13.50XFBOS4.5JFK4.5JFK4.5                                    
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN PHX ///////////////  
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
01 WLRT2US     USD   412.50 BOS-JNB SA /HR  0M              AT  
                     825.00    -    TOTAL NUC                   
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION------------------------ 
      386.00        /YRF SERVICE FEE - FUEL                      
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JFK* *SA*                         
         193.00:USD   193.00 *JNB* *SA*                         
       34.40        US/US2 US INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX 
This shows that SA has been collecting its fuel surcharge all along.

As some people have mentioned, this phenomenon is why around-the-world tickets are generally cheaper if purchased through AA. But apprently not any longer...
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