I agree there won't be that many takers on the in-person stuff, but do we need more internet-based action? I love FT and this forum but have to ask what we are accomplishing going back-and-forth about the issues here other than educating hard core travelers? We travel junkies are the minority (and vocal- still a very important constituency) but to win this war we're going to have to start talking to Ma and Pa Kettles and persuading them.