There are some very good points made in this thread. I do not foresee ever being SE as my flying is mostly domestic. Elite satisfies my travel needs with upgrades, MLL access, priority boarding and Business Class check-in etc. I don't need much more than that to travel in comfort. SE is not a club one joins by travelling a lot; it is recognition for being aloft lots of hours, travelling to and from airports and encountering occasional delays and other frustrations. SE members earn their card the hard way: mile after mile after mile.... I admire them, but I won't join them unless my job changes or I win the 6/49 today.