I can't speak for long ago history. But, I can say that over the last 4-5 years up until the loss of Aloha and ATA the fares from SAN to OGG and HNL were basically the same as we see here for Portland and Seattle. In fact, the SAN fares were often lower than the northwest cities. Now, without any lower fare competition, the fares are routinely the highest from SAN and even high from LAX.