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Old Dec 25, 2008, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Andy1369
Why do you think the airlines is allowing SF to happen if the problems outlined a few posts ago (no way to rebook during IRROPS, seat changes, etc)? You would think in this weak economy, airlines wouldn't want to diminish important functions and therefore lose business- especially during IRROPS? Would TSA have any consideration during IRROPS or the ability to transfer permissions from your original boarding pass to the new one that the airline prints? It just doesn't make sense why TSA would set it up this way?
Why? Because they want to fly today. Seriously. They have to comply with all Federal regulations.

They also know that protesting this will make them look loose on security - and with that comes some presumed liability. Aside from being forced to do it, they also don't want the liability (remember that regulation compliance is about avoiding liability if they can prove that they complied with the 'experts' in Government).

Ultimately, if IROPS get screwed up and/or passengers are left behind, they can use the excuse that "the government made me do it", and avoid paying compensation. They already use that one with weather delays.....

Originally Posted by bocastephen
SecureFlight (I will be posting the actual data points soon, as promised) is being designed as an informational loop-back to RealID. In a nutshell, you will be assigned an ID 'number', which will be connected to your PNR and tied to your name, DOB, address, social security number and other data points collected.

This data will then be tied to your RealID-secured license or other 'national ID' card you will be carrying. In short, there will be a number which will follow you everywhere, and be tied to all of your daily activities which could be tied to any of these data points, including credit card transactions, bank account activity, air travel, car travel (where you gas up, where you rent a car, etc.), etc. etc. etc.

The end game? The ability of DHS to create a comprehensive dossier on each and every one of us, following us through our daily lives, is becoming closer to reality.
And this is quite close to the truth. The powers that be consider their mission to 'protect the country' regardless of the cost. And by extension, this means 'protecting every person'. Problem is that real risk analysis isn't done - it's all about protecting against the singular threat. So the ingrates don't like that we're protecting them? Then just make it secret and find a way to force them into compliance. Both Bush and Cheney are unapologetic about what thier administration has done - and they angrily blow off any suggestion that their violating the constitution.... they just don't think it applies when it comes to 'protecting the country'.

The ultimate goal is to track everyone, all the time. Remember Total Information Awareness? That was going to track everyone, even to the point of using commercial databases, credit records, and even a suggestion of getting credit card data.

Each little step is just turning up the heat under the pot, by the time Americans realize the water is boiling, it will be too late. (This is a time-tested technique that's been used by political parties and religous organizations...)
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