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The Entire State of New York Kicked Out of Global Entry, Nexus & Other TTPs

The Entire State of New York Kicked Out of Global Entry, Nexus & Other TTPs
Joe Cortez

If you live in New York, the latest order from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security prevents your participation in a Trusted Travel Program. The acting secretary announced the changes on live TV Wednesday night, over state law changes going into effect in December 2019.

The Department of Homeland Security is taking an extraordinary step with its Trusted Travel Programs by excluding the entire state of New York from all programs. In an exclusive interview with Fox News Channel, acting department secretary Chad Wolf announced the immediate exclusion in response to the recently enacted “Green Light Law.” You can follow current commentary and opinions on the change in the FlyerTalk forums.

 

Why Is This Happening?

New York enacted the “Green Light Law” in December 2019, allowing anyone to apply for a driver’s license regardless of their immigration status. According to the New York Immigration Coalition, similar laws were passed by 12 states, Washington, D.C., and the territory of Puerto Rico. The law would allow over 750,000 individuals to legally obtain driver’s licenses, and protect other undocumented Americans from losing theirs.

As a result, the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles is no longer sharing driver’s license and vehicle registration information with several Department of Homeland Security agencies, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection or Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Because of this, DHS says they no longer have a method to ensure New York residents qualify for Trusted Traveler Programs including TSA Precheck, Global Entry or Nexus.

“Having access to New York DMV information has enabled CBP to validate that an individual applying for Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) membership qualifies for low-risk status or meets other program requirements,” the letter from Secretary Wolf to New York DMV officials reads, as published by Fox News Channel. “An individual’s criminal history affects their eligibility for TTP membership.”

Because of the shift, the secretary suspended TTP membership and renewal to everyone enrolled living in the state of New York. “Because the [Green Light Act] prevents DHS from accessing New York DMV records in order to determine whether a TTP applicant or re-applicant meets program eligibility requirements,” the letter reads. “New York residents will no longer be eligible to enroll or re-enroll in CBP’s Trusted Traveler Programs.”

Read a scanned copy of the Department of Homeland Security’s letter to the New York DMV here.

The letter did not state how current members of Trusted Traveler Programs would be affected, or if they would still be allowed to maintain their status through the expiration date.

What Does This Mean for My Global Entry, NEXUS, and TSA PreCheck Status?

Here’s what we know so far:

  • existing New York Global Entry members are not affected
  • Applications and renewals for Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, and FAST
  • It’s not clear how this will affect RealID-compliant licenses
  • If you’re in the process of applying for a Trusted Traveler program, there’s no official word on what will happen to your application. However, it will likely depend on whether or not your background check was completed (in which case it will likely still be mailed to you). If your application hasn’t reached that stage of the process, chances are higher that your application will be rejected.

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DHS move echoes the “State of the Union” address’ criticism of “Sanctuary Cities.”

The move comes days after the current president used his “State of the Union” address to criticize “Sanctuary Cities.” Acting secretary Wolf agreed with the president’s statements, and vowed to “counter dangerous state and local laws that prohibit coordination with DHS law enforcement officers.”

“Sanctuary policies are an affront to the rule of law and our Constitution and they are contrary to every instinct that we have as law enforcement professionals,” secretary Wolf stated after the address. “All too often, criminal aliens are released into communities only to re-offend, requiring the men and women of ICE to needlessly risk their lives to track down these fugitives in neighborhoods or at workplaces instead of the security of a local jail.”

Wolf also mentioned similar concerns in his letter to New York DMV officials. Noting their arrest record in New York, the secretary reaffirmed their need to access records from state officials.

“In New York alone, last year ICE arrested 149 child predators, identified or rescued 105 victims of exploitation and human trafficking, arrested 230 gang members, and seized 6,487 pounds of illegal narcotics, including fentanyl and opioids,” the letter reads. “In the vast majority of these cases, ICE relied on New York DMV records to fulfill its mission.”

State officials in New York have not released a statement to the news. Politicians from New York State have told other media outlets, including CNN, the judgment would be reviewed.

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47 Comments

  1. FlyingNone

    February 6, 2020 at 10:13 am

    Are the other 12 sanctuary sates still sharing information with the DHS or is NY State the only one ?

  2. drphun

    February 6, 2020 at 10:32 am

    This is an excellent example of the unintended consequences of these sorts of political decisions. The state is no longer sharing information with the federal government, but since that sharing is how these convenience programs work, the state is effectively kicking their citizens out of these programs.

  3. glob99

    February 6, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    Global entry requires a passport. Why would that be affected? Homeland security doesn’t trust USA passports?

  4. mc4bbs

    mc4bbs

    February 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    This is complete BULLSH!T.

    I pay $100 to give my personal information to DHS and give up my privacy every time I renew (theft of services).
    I am a legal resident of the United States with a U.S. Passport — WTF does DHS care about my driving licence?

    If this is not resolved, I intend to SUE the DHS, and invite someone to file a class action suit.

    This is ALL Trump’s doing because New York won’t give him what he wants. Trump needs to go!!!!

  5. fotographer

    February 6, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    globb99, GE is more then having a US passport
    almost any citizen can get a passport.. not GE.. they require checks

  6. yabadoo

    February 6, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    Which illegal immigrant is going to be applying for Global Entry? This makes no sense. Since when did you need a drivers license to fly?

  7. PaulMSN

    February 6, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    I haven’t seen anything that shows the DHS actually needs the drivers license info. It seems more like they are using it to punish states that do things that Trump doesn’t like.

  8. Sydneyberlin

    February 6, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    These are the “little” stories that show how the US is bit by bit slipping towards a dictatorship- expect to see more and more of these in the future under your highness, King Trump. Reminds me of Singapore in the 90ies when they purposely closed two brand new Underground stations because the voters in these areas had dared to not vote for the ruling (and de facto dictatorial) party.

  9. jamesteroh

    February 6, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    Trump’s probably mad because the State of NY is prosecuting him and his kids and is doing everything he can to punish them.

  10. glob99

    February 6, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    fotographer,

    USA passport is proof of your identity. With that the feds can check for criminal records, etc. A drivers license is not needed for GE.

  11. diver858

    February 6, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    COMPLETE BS.

    According to https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry/eligibility, citizens of the following COUNTRIES are able to participate in the Global Entry Program: Argentina, India, Colombia, United Kingdom, Germany, Panama, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan and Mexican nationals.

    This suggests that a Mexican national, living illegally in NY, could apply for, obtain Global Entry, while US citizens living in NY cannot.

    If they have not done so already, ACLU will put an end to this charade in short order.

  12. mvoight

    February 6, 2020 at 7:58 pm

    Why does DHS need driver’s license info for “security” as it doesn’t require people to have driver’s license to get Global Entry, etc?
    This is what happen when the POTUS is permitted to get away with everything

  13. TurboTing

    February 6, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    Folks, this is all about BACKGROUND CHECK!
    Having a US Passport is a proof of US citizenship. To be a member of Trusted Traveler Program is more than just about proving one’s citizenship. If involves background check and screening to ensure low risk status.
    Please tell me about a background check that does not involve disclosing one’s driver license number?! I have went through my share of background checks over the past few years with employment, professional licensing, and even to be chaperone for my children’s school, Global Entry applications notwithstanding… All involved disclosing driver license number.
    And, if DHS is barred from accessing one particular’s state’s DMV record and thus hampered in completing the requisite background check, this harsh decision– while seemingly political in intent– may not be so inexcusable. Just saying.

  14. JamesBigglesworth

    February 7, 2020 at 1:50 am

    So either DHS is claiming that *driver’s records* are the *primary* source of information for judging suitability for TT programmes, which would be beyond pathetic as a security standard, *OR* this is simply a political move to punish NY. Given that you can’t apply without a passport andd *everything* attached to that information, I’m picking the latter (political move) as the actual reason DHS has done this.

  15. MiniMuffin

    February 7, 2020 at 2:01 am

    A petty, vindictive move from Trump and an abuse of power. In other words, par for the course of the Trump presidency.

  16. eric_o

    February 7, 2020 at 3:21 am

    PaulMSN, here – I fixed it for you:

    “It seems more like they are using it to punish states that break federal law”

  17. cairns

    February 7, 2020 at 7:08 am

    You don’t want to cooperate with the Feds don’t whine if they don’t want to cooperate with you. We need more of this.

  18. t_cliff

    February 7, 2020 at 8:16 am

    This Green Light Law means NY DL is not RealID compliant.

  19. cairns

    February 7, 2020 at 9:09 am

    At least TurboTing gets it. I gather the lot of you complaining don’t have and have never applied for Global Entry or any of the other TTP programs. Or you just hate Trump.

    The DHS needs to see employment, residency and driving records (et. al.) as part of the process. The state of New York says they won’t cooperate.

    You should be complaining to your state officials.

  20. fotographer

    February 7, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Globb99, for example.. a passport will not let DHS know the person had a felony conviction or a DUI.. which are need to determine
    as to weather you can apply for GE

  21. jjmoore

    February 7, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @TurboTing and @t_cliff – These are the points that are relevant here. The voters decided to support politicians promoting these policies, and now they will suffer the unintended but necessary consequence. NY liberals – if you don’t like this, then change the way you vote. I am glad the DHS took a stance here to keep the rest of our country safer.

    Don’t worry, I will be giving you all a snarky grin as I whisk past you in the Precheck line while you wait eons and get strip searched in the regular checkpoint line. Happy travels!!

  22. drphun

    February 7, 2020 at 9:32 am

    I was wondering too whether the Green Light Law means NY is not Real ID compliant, but I don’t think it does. In my state, you can renew your drivers license without being Real ID compliant. If you are compliant then you get a star on the license. So I think some NY licenses will be compliant and some will not be.

  23. RandomNobody

    February 7, 2020 at 9:39 am

    > Please tell me about a background check that does not involve disclosing one’s driver license number?!

    Hmm. I’m looking at the SF86, which was the form I filled out years ago for my Secret clearance, and I don’t see where it asks for a DL:
    https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

    How about the (now obsoleted) SF85P for simple “Public trust” positions? Nope, don’t see it there, either. (link not included as it’s obsolete and I’m looking at a paper copy)

    Ok, the SF85 for regular positions? Nope, not there, either.

    https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf85.pdf

    All just ask for an SSN, Selective Service #, and all your active Passport #s if you’ve got any.

    So the USG doesn’t need a DL# to work for them, or to hold a security clearance.

  24. edgewood49

    February 7, 2020 at 9:52 am

    Turbo Ting has hit the nail on the head. It’s all about a through background check when you peel the onion back they are doing the correct thing thankfully someone is thinking. That was not a Political statement

  25. whitethunder

    February 7, 2020 at 9:55 am

    Love it. TTP’s are to be used on low risk persons.

    Not being able to access your DL info makes it impossible to do a proper background check, simple as that.

    Good on the US GOVT to do this!!

  26. vj_rama

    February 7, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    You’ve got to love the degree of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) on this forum. mc4bbs is getting ready to sue the government!! Can you imagine how much time and $ you would spend on a lawsuit compares to the amount of time you’d have to spend in an immigration line at jfk?

    A simple background check involves DMV records (speeding, DUI, etc). Not allowing the DHS to access these records is the reason for suspending this privilege.

    Media turning this into Trump punishing NY for giving licenses to illegal aliens is nonsense. As stated above, several other states offer illegals licenses but allow DHS to access the DMV records.

    This is a consequence of NY hatred for Trump – not the other way around.

    Sorry guys, but he’s going to win again. Try to compose yourself for the next 4 years.

    #MAGA #KAGA

  27. kkua

    February 7, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    Sadly, of all the statistics of the criminals, more than half of them are American born citizens! This rule is totally politically motivated. The least they can do is to give notification and a deadline. This zero-notice abrupt cancellation is nothing short of harassment by Trump.

  28. glob99

    February 7, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    fotographer,

    You missed the point AGAIN. Once the feds have your USA passport, they can check for criminal convictions, etc. A drivers license is not needed!

  29. Dublin_rfk

    February 8, 2020 at 4:11 am

    Reciprocity! I absolutely love it. The elected offal is some states have been poking the American people in the eye by releasing Violent criminals because they don’t like immigration laws ( and not following other Federal laws and regulations ) and the Federal government is responding. New York State is the first and most likely won’t be the last.

  30. txirish

    February 8, 2020 at 4:31 am

    Relying on state-issued drivers licences as the best ID for domestic travel seems so 20th century. That’s particularly true when every state has its own peculiar practices and, in some cases, vulnerabilities. A robust, biometric national ID system would solve all this. States could do their drivers license thing however they liked.

  31. peterk814

    February 8, 2020 at 4:41 am

    Just another reason why my beloved home state of NY is being screwed over due to the idiot hipsters and liberals who have taken over this state like locusts. Trump is not to blame. It’s the idiot Cuomo. Passing laws by night without regard for the citizens of NY or anyone for that matter. In what world does it make sense to provide legal driving privileges to illegal aliens? In what world does it make sense to let career criminals out without bail so they’re right back in handcuffs hours after they’ve been released only to be released again and again? The only dictatorship Is the liberal dictatorship taking away rights from citizens and making my home unsafe

  32. Fornebufox

    February 8, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @peterk814 A few years ago while crossing the street I was hit and knocked down by an unregistered van, most probably driven by an unlicensed immigrant, who skidded into the rain-slick crosswalk. Fortunately I was ok, but I am all for EVERYONE being able to have a driver’s license–it’s not just a privilege for the driver but protection for everyone else. Apart from that, I do think that cancellation of GE for NY residents is pure retaliatory BS.

  33. jmrp

    February 8, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    Well said, peterk814 !!

  34. Jackie_414

    February 8, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    This is really excellent. The DHS, including ICE and Border Security, must have real time input on drivers records to effectively do its job. This is not vindictiveness, it is the DHS doing its job. The legislature and governor of New York made the decision to exclude its citizens from the TTS, not the federal government. This will also have the effect of quieter airplanes with fewer loud mouthed NYC idiots on board.

  35. AJNEDC

    February 8, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    The US is fast becoming a banana republic that we so like to joke about.
    Is this why my renewal has not occurred even though I applied for renewal since October 2019?

  36. Dublin_rfk

    February 9, 2020 at 4:07 am

    @fornebufox, I’m glad that you are ok after your described automotive incident. But you are mistaken about the issuance of driver’s licenses. Driving (legally) is a privilege! And in such one is expected to obey the law. To legally receive a driver’s license you must provide proof of residency, proof of ability to drive, proof of insurance are only three of the many requirements.. When some states decided to streamline the voter registration process by offering to Make you eligible to vote at the same time strengthens the for the government to know who has a driver’s license.
    But I am glad you survived.

  37. Aloha1

    February 9, 2020 at 8:41 am

    SECURITY FIRST! Cuomo can put a fork in it. No other State denies access to verification.

  38. CEB

    February 9, 2020 at 9:14 am

    kkua & glob99, you are confusing knowing a person’s drivers license number with access to their records. This has nothing to do with whether someone can get a drivers license or not, it has to do with access to their records tied to that drivers license. And kkua, that goes for American citizens as much as it does for immigrants. The immigrant aspect of this barrage of media hype is also totally irrelevant, it is simply the NY excuse for not sharing the data. Try to keep the focus on the facts rather than irrelevant assumptions.

  39. cplunk

    February 9, 2020 at 9:57 am

    background check? Like, from an FBI criminal database search?
    Because, come on, just because someone lives in New York wouldn’t preclude them from committing a crime in New Jersey, which as I understand New York would not keep record of. And yes, FBI tracks DUI arrests, and shares it with Canadians too.
    Or are they really concerned about who has speeding tickets for authorizing pre check?
    Not to mention the speed in which this was done. Law passed, probably without instructions on how to proceed enforcement. And there goes DHS on Fox making an announcement. Any decision made that fast is purely political.
    And all those so called libertarians applaud Trump, trying to justify his repetitive petty, vindictive government intrusions into people’s lives.

  40. owlwoman

    February 9, 2020 at 10:39 am

    Well said Peterk814, it’s Cuomo’s fault and I don’t agree with giving illegals a driver’s license, they will drive with or without one and disobey any rules that law abiding USA citizens go by.

    That being said, I had filled out my renewal app in December and just needed the interview, came back from an international trip last night and the agent (who was very sympathetic and a NY resident, wonder if he will lose his job now?) told me my renewal was cancelled, thankfully I have GE until December 2020, and hopefully this will be all resolved by then, but in the meantime, I am being inconvenienced by all this, even though I pay my taxes and comply with all the rules. Now, when and if this gets resolved, will have to fill out the renewal form again and schedule another interview…..not complaining, just sayin’

  41. GetSetJetSet

    February 9, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    There’s no such thing as “undocumented Americans.” The “undocumented” are illegal aliens in America without legal permission to remain. They are NOT Americans. American citizens wouldn’t need these new laws to “protect” them.

  42. PepeBorja

    February 9, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Took exactly 4 replies before Trump got the blame. Sheesh! DL records are needed for background checks on criminal offenses and misdeamonrs… which keep folks from getting GE.

  43. mvoight

    February 10, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    You do not need driver’s license info to do a criminal background check, That is done by name, dob, fingerprints, etc. There is no requirement to have a driver’s license to get Global entry, so that proves there is NO reason for DHS to need your Driver’s License information, Additionally the driver’s licenses issue to people without legal documentation to be in the country are VISIBLY DIFFERENT than standard licenses. If a person has been convicted of a crime, like DUI, there is no requirement to know their driver’s license record for DHS to know they have a conviction.

  44. jjmoore

    February 11, 2020 at 4:38 am

    @GetSetJetSet – Thank you for standing up and clarifying what most are too afraid to say. There are too many whiners and crybabies in this thread that simply don’t understand that state agencies and government agencies should communicate, and should be mandated to communicate. Period. I don’t see how anything good comes from preventing this communication. I have a friend that was hit by an illegal alien drunk driver that had been released from jail (the ICE detainer was ignored). This is the result of state agencies being barred by law from communicating with government agencies that are tasked with keeping the CITIZENS of the USA safe.

    There ARE elements of the background check that require information from the DMV (regardless of what the uninformed know-nothings earlier in this thread say). If the DMV cannot communicate with DHS, let me say this – the refusals should not just stop with new applicants and renewals, but should continue to revoking all GE and TSA Precheck memberships for those possessing a NY-issued DL or state ID card. This needs to be a lesson to the people of this state that vote for politicians that enact these kinds of policies.

  45. Global321

    February 11, 2020 at 5:49 am

    “the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles is no longer sharing driver’s license and vehicle registration information with several Department of Homeland Security agencies, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection or Immigration and Customs Enforcement”

    THAT is the reason NYS was kicked out. Other ‘Sanctuary States’ are still in.

    Return access and NYC can go back in. This is 100% on NYC.

  46. ezefllying

    February 17, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    “ If the DMV cannot communicate with DHS, let me say this – the refusals should not just stop with new applicants and renewals, but should continue to revoking all GE and TSA Precheck memberships for those possessing a NY-issued DL or state ID card. This needs to be a lesson to the people of this state that vote for politicians that enact these kinds of policies.”

    At least you admit the quiet part out loud. Obviously, there is no legitimate basis for revoking the Global Entry credentials of those who were granted them prior to New York’s policy change — DHS doesn’t communicate with the DMV after the credentials have been granted. You’re just agitating to use the U.S. national-security apparatus as a political tool to bludgeon the president’s opponents.

    Hope that the next Democratic administration, which may be in office eleven months from now, does not respond in kind. Withholding Medicare payments from states that limit access to abortions or refuse to launch state health exchanges? It’s the same mindset.

  47. jjmoore

    February 19, 2020 at 5:53 am

    @ezefllying – You can start by not putting words into my mouth, and then you can also do some diligent research into weaponizing government agencies to bludgeon political opponents. You only have to look back to our previous president, who weaponized the IRS to harass conservative organizations. Let’s not turn this into a political forum, as it appears you would love to take this converation onto this tangent.

    The fact of the matter is that if the DMV cannot communicate with the DHS, then the DHS cannot perform ANY SORT of background check on new applicants OR existing members of the program. That, in my eyes, is a security concern, and that is the real reason that I feel every single program member holding a NY state ID or DL should be immediately revoked from GE and TSA Pre. As a secondary impact, this is punishment for electing politicians that enact these kinds of policies. These politicians just happen to be Democrats.

    In all of your brilliance, please enlighten us as to why preventing communication between DMV and DHS is a good idea.

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