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Flyers Claim Trump Allegiance is Forcing Them Off Flights – But Is It True?

Flyers Claim Trump Allegiance is Forcing Them Off Flights – But Is It True?
Joe Cortez

After the assault on the U.S. Capitol Building, some flyers say that their support of outgoing president Donald Trump is resulting in their removal off flights. However, videos taken by other passengers aboard these aircraft suggests it has to do more with their behavior than their political ideologies.

When flyers behave badly at their destination, how should they be handled? In China, those who act inappropriately in foreign countries have their charges follow them back home, resulting in penalties for their transgressions. In the United States, a growing number of flyers say they are being removed from flights because of their support of outgoing president Donald Trump. Yet, the problem could lie not in their political beliefs, but in how they are acting aboard aircraft.

Are Airlines Putting Trump Supporters on No-Fly Lists?

Reports and social media videos from across the internet would suggest that wearing a red hat or wearing anything branded with the president’s name is becoming a red flag for airlines. In video shared by the Suncoast News Network, one group of flyers claimed Delta Air Lines refused them service because of they made statements in support of Trump.

But in a video presumably from the same flight, the group was shown as they were escorted from the plane. When other passengers asked why, one woman in the group claimed: “Freedom of speech.” In a statement to The Independent, Delta noted that the decision to remove passengers from flights is “based solely on behavior that affects the safety and security of our operation including noncompliance with instruction from flight crews.”

Other videos posted online show passengers exhibiting a number of unruly behaviors while flying, for a variety of reasons. On one American Airlines departure from Charlotte Douglas International Airport (CLT), a woman was caught rallying against face coverings on board aircraft. American has held the mandatory policy since July 2020. She was ultimately met by police at her destination for being disruptive.

 

Although the airlines respect freedom of speech and other inherent rights granted by the U.S. Constitution, passengers do not have the right to be disruptive to the flight operations, or threatening to the flight attendants and other passengers. As examples of supporting free speech and harassment-free aircraft: American Airlines authorized a committee-designed Black Lives Matter pin for wear on uniforms, while Delta upgraded a passenger in September 2020, after they claimed to be harassed when a passenger in her row exchanged her face mask with one supporting the Blue Lives Matter movement. In August 2020, Spirit Airlines donated free travel to a number of social justice and civil rights organizations, including the National Black Chamber of Commerce and the NAACP.

Flyer Removals Comes After AFA-CWA Called for Capitol Stormers to be Put on No-Fly Lists

The removals come as union leaders and lawmakers called for those involved in the attack on the U.S. Capitol to be banned from future air travel. In a statement, Association of Flight Attendants-CWA president Sara Nelson and House Homeland Security Committee chairman Bennie G. Thompson called for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Transportation Security Administration to work together in identifying suspects and placing them on no-fly lists.

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17 Comments

  1. Hawkeyefan

    January 11, 2021 at 1:36 pm

    So, if one wears a Trump hat, but otherwise follows protocol, he/she would be Treated the same as someone wearing an Antifa shirt? In today’s society…no way.

  2. mvoight

    January 11, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    This is not just about “making statements about Trump”
    This is about being disruptive. Other passengers don’t want passengers to be shouting anything, no matter who it is about”

  3. PilgrimsProgress

    January 11, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    Clearly the airlines discriminate against trump supporters. They formally approve and celebrate BLM but criticize and disapprove MAGA. This is faux fashion which airlines and businesses with no morality or ethics love.

  4. dogcanyon

    January 12, 2021 at 7:44 am

    “This is faux fashion which airlines and businesses with no morality or ethics love.”

    The leader of your movement was off ****ing a porn star while his third wife was home caring for their newborn child, ordered that babies be ripped from their mothers’ arms at the border and got a crooked doctor to write a note so that he could dodge the draft and you’re talking about other people’s morality and ethics?

  5. Counsellor

    January 12, 2021 at 2:51 pm

    @dogcaanyon: You are aware, I hope, that the law of libel applies to you, too. Or are you totally unhinged?

  6. travelinmanS

    January 12, 2021 at 7:47 pm

    How much of a loser do you have to be to continue to vocally support Trump? Send them to the Greyhounds where they’d be more at home.

  7. vargha

    January 13, 2021 at 4:29 am

    Two stories come immediately to mind in the last week – the flight that was returned to the departure terminal because everyone (or mostly everyone) on board was singing the national anthem. While it may be mildly disruptive, I guess, and maybe even annoying due to a lack of singing ability, is this really what a flight should be grounded for? I fail to see the risk or threat.

    Another confirmed incident was of two people being removed for having a pro-Trump discussion at what was confirmed to be normal voice tones, and not disruptive. Are airlines now implementing speech rules?

    You can selectively choose to report only mask incidents. And while I completely disagree with those policies, those fighting it for adults are quite aware of the requirements as well as the penalties for non-compliance. But the absence of stories such as the ones I listed above, which are easily found, leads one to believe that there is either a lack of due diligence in compiling this editorial article or perhaps an agenda. Either way, I would hope for better the next time around.

  8. bluemarble

    January 13, 2021 at 4:56 am

    It is certainly understandable that someone who is being sought for committing a federal crime, especially a violent one, would be placed on the “no fly” list! Especially in the current, overheated environment. I would assume that this would apply to someone who tries to burn down a federal building in Portland, OR, just as it would apply to someone who storms the US Capitol. Violence aboard an aircraft is more dangerous even then violence on the ground, for obvious reasons.

    So, perhaps the “discrimination” is against violent people, and not against Trump supporters. And that is as it should be.

  9. PaulMSN

    January 13, 2021 at 4:57 am

    PilgrimsProgress makes a claim without proof. That may be what he or she believes, but a bald declaration without any proof carries zero weight. Video shows that these people were being asses. That’s why they were removed. While I dislike Hillary Clinton, events have shown that she was dead right.

  10. bozacksmith

    January 13, 2021 at 8:10 am

    oh geez, get out of your douche canoe because everyone is correct. No one on any plane would get the same treatment wearing different t-shirts but yes it is more about behavior and they should be tossed.

    I don’t like the guy but DogCanyon were you this pissed when Clinton was banging Monica while married on our tax payer dime? Or this pissed that Obama, Biden, Clinton and Harris never served? Pissed that Biden’s current wife cheated on her husband with Joe………

    I live by the border and no kids are being ripped out of anyone’s hands, stop watching one news channel and do your own fact checking. Be more pissed there are all these kids being sent to the border without any of their parents and adults. When they are detained you can’t detain them with their parents when there are no parents around. Plus we saw this started during Bush and Obama. Be more concerned there are homeless kids and vets here already being treated like crap instead of spewing your hate on a travel site.

  11. not2017

    January 13, 2021 at 11:06 am

    So, these passengers being denied boarding….they refused to wear masks on the way to DC. Many FAs noted the behavior instead of confronting 40-50 people. On their way home, they are being stopped for non-compliance for refusing to wear a mask. They totally deserve to be banned by the airline. They knew what they were doing was wrong and now are paying the consequences. Do the crime, you do the time!

  12. dogcanyon

    January 13, 2021 at 11:11 am

    ” I don’t like the guy but DogCanyon were you this pissed when Clinton was banging Monica while married on our tax payer dime?”

    Actually, yes I was. I maintained then and still do that he should have been convicted and removed from office for perjury and obstruction of justice.

  13. mvoight

    January 13, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    Counsellor, where do you see libel in his statements? Trump has done all of that.

  14. Bluesman62

    January 14, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    IMO I can’t see billion-dollar businesses like the airlines discriminating against and alienating a significant portion of their potential customers…the airlines care about the color of your money, not the color of your hat. Behave in public and on your flight, no problem. Be a disruptive a$$, don’t follow the rules, and get yourself removed. It’s that simple.

  15. JG_Aus

    January 14, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    This isn’t about freedom of speech or expression – it’s about people who can’t control themselves and behave in a reasonable and civilized fashion. I don’t care if they have Trump hats or Q-Anon t-shirts, but if they disruptive and argumentative, let them drive andkeep them off my flights.

  16. MiscMel70

    January 15, 2021 at 8:16 am

    The number of people commenting defending people who are CLEARLY unhinged is so weird and surreal to me. Guys, these folks are STRUGGLING mentally already and people in power who they TRUST, speak DIRECTLY to them INTENTIONALLY instigating their instability into doing their dirty work so they can keep their hands clean. It’s not cool. I’m not one to call these folks mean names because I see they’re struggling mentally and it’s CRIMINAL that they’re being taken advantage of.

    For those of you who are struggling with comprehension here, go read the reports of the Capitol Police. These SAME people you’re defending the right to scream on planes were screaming at the doors of the capital during the siege, to the police “We’re on your side. We love the thin blue line. Kill him with his own gun”. One cop was beaten with his own baton. Another was crushed in a door jam. One was murdered. Another died later of suicide.

    STOP DEFENDING this behavior so we can help these people. Defending it only pushes them further into their insanity.

  17. carlosdca

    carlosdca

    January 18, 2021 at 10:28 am

    Dear Trump supporters:
    No, the fact that you like Trump should not warrant criminal charges or being banned from the flight. Wear proudly your MAGA hat, even your MAGA mask.

    Dear Passengers (Blue, red and all the colors in between):
    Screaming and spreading your saliva all over, being a drama queen about the mask, being disruptive and delaying the flight is plain wrong. So please behave.

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