Mileage Run Tools, Part 2
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#182
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fare routing rules from websites?
Hi, I'm a newbie, but I promise I've read the sticky on Mileage Runs, searched around in several other threads, and thus I think I've learned that routing rules are no longer available on any websites, except possibly ExpertFlyer.com. Is this accurate?
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)
Thanks for any update.
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)
Thanks for any update.
#183



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Hi, I'm a newbie, but I promise I've read the sticky on Mileage Runs, searched around in several other threads, and thus I think I've learned that routing rules are no longer available on any websites, except possibly ExpertFlyer.com. Is this accurate?
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)
Thanks for any update.
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)
Thanks for any update.
Next thanks for trying to search to find the answer to your question ^
fwiw, I just checked "XP to the north" and on the sample booking I picked at random, the routing rules (albeit w/o the complete city to city routing examples) were still there
for example:
yhpm on how to pull this up
PHP Code:
From: New York, NY, United States (JFK-Kennedy)
To: Las Vegas, NV, United States (LAS-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: VA14N4E
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VA14N4E V X 191.45 R07AU 14/1 -/ - 35
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-NYC TO-LAS CXR-UA TVL-10MAY08 RULE-4124 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-VA14N4E SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 166.51 0035 E09APR08 D07AUG09 FC-VA14N4E FN-B
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09APR08/2155 EXPIRES INFINITY
50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
NORMAL FARES
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY/COACH CLASS
SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
SEATS ARE LIMITED.
01.ELIGIBILITY
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
STANDBY PERMITTED FOR EARLIER / LATER SAME DAY FLIGHTS
OTHERWISE WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE TKTG AFTER RES REQ WILL NOT APPL WHEN FARES
ARE COMB W/OTHER FARES TO CONST THRU INTL TRANS
T/F PTS OUTSIDE THE US/CA/MX/BM/BS/WEST INDIES
PROVIDED AT LEAST ONE INTERNATIONAL SEGMENT
OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA IS VIA UA.
NOTIFICATION OF THE TICKET NUMBER IS REQUIRED AND
MUST BE VIA A TKNA OR TKNM SSR.
06.MINIMUM STAY
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
08.STOPOVERS
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN DEN AT
USD 55.81.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NOT VALID ON NONSTOP ROUTINGS OR ROUTINGS THAT DO
NOT HAVE DEN AS AN INTERMEDIATE POINT.
09.TRANSFERS
4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
10.COMBINATIONS
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO
FORM SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT ROUND TRIPS/
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS.
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
BUR-LAX BUR-ONT BUR-SNA BWI-WAS EWR-HPN
EWR-HVN EWR-ISP EWR-NYC FLL-MIA FLL-PBI
HVN-HPN HVN-ISP HVN-NYC ISP-HPN ISP-NYC
LAX-ONT LAX-SNA MIA-PBI NYC-HPN OAK-SFO
OAK-SJC ONT-SNA SFO-SJC
11.BLACKOUT DATES
FROM LAS -
IF TRAVEL OCCURS 200AM TO 759PM DAILY
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 27APR08 OR ON 11MAY08 OR
ON 16MAY08 OR ON 18MAY08 OR 21MAY08 THROUGH 23MAY08
OR 25MAY08 THROUGH 27MAY08 OR ON 30MAY08 OR 01JUN08
THROUGH 02JUN08 OR ON 06JUN08 OR ON 08JUN08 OR
12JUN08 THROUGH 14JUN08 OR 15JUN08 THROUGH 16JUN08
OR 19JUN08 THROUGH 25JUN08 OR 26JUN08 THROUGH
30JUN08 OR 06JUL08 THROUGH 07JUL08 OR ON 20JUL08 OR
ON 24JUL08 OR 27JUL08 THROUGH 28JUL08 OR ON 01AUG08
OR ON 03AUG08 OR ON 08AUG08 OR ON 10AUG08 OR ON
17AUG08 OR ON 01SEP08 OR ON 07SEP08 OR ON 14SEP08 OR
ON 21SEP08 OR ON 28SEP08 OR ON 05OCT08 OR ON 12OCT08
OR 19OCT08 THROUGH 20OCT08 OR ON 26OCT08 OR ON
02NOV08 OR 09NOV08 THROUGH 10NOV08 OR ON 16NOV08 OR
23NOV08 THROUGH 25NOV08 OR ON 30NOV08 OR ON 07DEC08
OR ON 14DEC08 OR 18DEC08 THROUGH 21DEC08 OR 23DEC08
THROUGH 28DEC08 OR 30DEC08 THROUGH 31DEC08 OR ON
11JAN09 OR ON 19JAN09 OR ON 25JAN09.
TO LAS -
IF TRAVEL OCCURS 200AM TO 759PM DAILY
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15MAY08 THROUGH 16MAY08 OR
ON 18MAY08 OR 22MAY08 THROUGH 23MAY08 OR ON 29MAY08
OR ON 01JUN08 OR 05JUN08 THROUGH 06JUN08 OR ON
08JUN08 OR 11JUN08 THROUGH 13JUN08 OR 15JUN08
THROUGH 16JUN08 OR 18JUN08 THROUGH 21JUN08 OR
22JUN08 THROUGH 23JUN08 OR 25JUN08 THROUGH 29JUN08
OR 06JUL08 THROUGH 07JUL08 OR ON 18JUL08 OR 26JUL08
THROUGH 27JUL08 OR ON 01AUG08 OR ON 03AUG08 OR ON
08AUG08 OR ON 10AUG08 OR ON 17AUG08 OR ON 29AUG08 OR
ON 12OCT08 OR 19OCT08 THROUGH 20OCT08 OR 09NOV08
THROUGH 10NOV08 OR 23NOV08 THROUGH 25NOV08 OR ON
30NOV08 OR 18DEC08 THROUGH 21DEC08 OR 23DEC08
THROUGH 28DEC08 OR ON 04JAN09 OR ON 16JAN09.
12.SURCHARGES
FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 23.26 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
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RULES GOVERNING FARES FOR TRAVEL ON A SEGMENT
ON WHICH A SURCHARGE APPLIES WILL ALSO GOVERN
THE SURCHARGE.
EXCEPTION - THE FOLLOWING PASSENGERS ARE EXEMPT
FROM THESE CHARGES-
1. PASSENGERS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON ANY UA FREE
TICKET OR ON UA/OTHER AIRLINES EMPLOYEE
REDUCED FARE TICKETS.
2. PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON FARES EXCLUDED WITH
CATEGORY 12 - SURCHARGE - IN THE FARE RULES.
AND - FROM LAS -
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 9.30 PER FARE
COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE ON
SUN.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THIS PEAK TRAVEL SURCHARGE IS ASSESSED ON A FARE
COMPONENT BASIS.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT MUST COMMENCE BY
MIDNIGHT ON 07AUG09.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY MAIL/MECHANICAL MEANS.
16.PENALTIES
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
- A WHOLLY UNUSED NON-REFUNDABLE TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
PROVIDED NEW TICKET IS ISSUED NO LATER THAN
ONE YEAR FROM ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE.
- PASSENGER MUST CANCEL TICKETED FLIGHT
RESERVATION ON/BEFORE THE ORIGINAL TICKETED
DEPARTURE DATE OTHERWISE REBOOKING IS NOT
PERMITTED AND TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
- PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON COMPANION FARES MUST
PRESENT ALL TICKETS AT THE SAME TIME.
CHANGES
CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/UNTICKTED PTA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED UP TO ONE YEAR FROM
ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED THE PASSENGER
CANCELS THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION ON/BEFORE
TICKETED DAY OF DEPARTURE. IF NOT CANCELED
REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND TICKET HAS NO VALUE
IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME ONLY
ONE CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY PER TICKET. IF FARES
WITH DIFFERENT CHANGE FEES ARE COMBINED ON THE
SAME TICKET THE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE
IS MADE.
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GUARANTEED AIR FARE
IF A DECREASE IN FARE AMOUNT OCCURS AFTER THE
TICKET IS PURCHASED AND PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF
TRAVEL OR A NEW FARE FOR WHICH THE PASSENGER
QUALIFIES BECOMES EFFECTIVE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE
WILL BE CREDITED/REFUNDED PROVIDED-
1. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/STOP
OVER POINTS/FLIGHTS/DATES.
2. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MUST BE
MET.
3. THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE OF ISSUE MAY NOT BE
USED TO SATISFY THE ADVANCE RESERVATION AND
TICKETING REQUIREMENTS.
4. THE BOOKING CODE OF THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MAY
DIFFER FROM THE BOOKING CODE ON THE ORIGINAL
TICKET.
THE PASSENGER MAY CHOOSE FROM THE FOLLOWING
OPTIONS-
1. REFUND TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT MINUS
A 100.00 USD SERVICE CHARGE.
2. REFUND THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES WITHOUT A
SERVICE CHARGE TO A NON-REFUNDABLE UNITED MCO
WHICH CAN BE USED TOWARD FUTURE TRAVEL. THE UA
MCO MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR A UA TICKET WITHIN
ONE YEAR OF THE MCO ISSUE DATE.
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CHANGES OTHER THAN GUARANTEED AIR FARE
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PRIOR TO DEPARTURE-
1. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE
IS NO CHANGE TO THE FIRST FLIGHT/COUPON..STOP
OVER POINTS OR FARE BREAK POINTS.
A. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS MAY BE
MADE AT ANY TIME FOR THE SERVICE CHARGE
WITHOUT REGARD TO THE ADVANCE RESERVATION
PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER
REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
- ATTEMPT TO REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING THE
SAME FARES THAT WERE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
THE ORIGINAL TICKET WAS ISSUED.
- ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
B. IF THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A CHANGE TO
THE DAY OF WEEK REQUIREMENT ON THE RETURN/
CONTINUING FLIGHTS AND THERE IS NO CHANGE TO
OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED
FARE-
- ATTEMPT TO REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING
FARES FROM THE SAME TARIFF/RULE THAT WERE
IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE ORIGINAL TICKET
WAS ISSUED.
- ALL OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINAL FARE
EXCEPT ADVANCE PURCHASE REQUIREMENT MUST
BE MET.
- ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
- IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO
RESIDUAL VALUE APPLIES AND THE FULL
SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED.
2. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE
IS NO CHANGE TO THE FIRST FLIGHT/COUPON-
A. IF CHANGES ARE MADE THAT PROHIBIT KEEPING
THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE-
- REPRICE ENTIRE NEW ITINERARY USING CURRENT
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DAY OF REISSUE.
- ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
- IF THE NEW FARE IS LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL
TICKETED FARE - SUBTRACT THE SERVICE
CHARGE FROM THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT AND APPLY
THE BALANCE TO A NON-REFUNDABLE UNITED MCO
OR UNITED TRAVEL VOUCHER.
---
OR
- CANCEL ITINERARY AND START OVER.
- COLLECT THE SERVICE CHARGE AND ANY
DIFFERENCE IN FARES BETWEEN THE ORIGINALLY
TICKETED FARE AND THE NEW FARE.
- IF THE NEW FARE IS LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL-
LY TICKETED FARE - SUBTRACT THE SERVICE
CHARGE FROM THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT AND APPLY
#184
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Interesting. I've been able to see these rules at expedia.ca as well. But is this an example that reflects no mileage run possiblitites, or am I ingorantly missing the routing rules?
<clipping:>
From: New York, NY, United States (JFK-Kennedy)
To: Las Vegas, NV, United States (LAS-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: VA14N4E
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VA14N4E V X 191.45 R07AU 14/1 -/ - 35
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-NYC TO-LAS CXR-UA TVL-10MAY08 RULE-4124 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-VA14N4E SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 166.51 0035 E09APR08 D07AUG09 FC-VA14N4E FN-B
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09APR08/2155 EXPIRES INFINITY
<end clip>
I see FROM-NYC and TO-LAS. No connections allowed? I tried a sample of my own: LAX-RDU. There are no direct flights between these two airports, so at least one connection has to be in there. Here are the rules expedia.ca returned:
From: Los Angeles, CA, United States (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/‡ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY
Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.
What am I missing? Thanks for your help, bk3day.
<clipping:>
From: New York, NY, United States (JFK-Kennedy)
To: Las Vegas, NV, United States (LAS-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: VA14N4E
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VA14N4E V X 191.45 R07AU 14/1 -/ - 35
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-NYC TO-LAS CXR-UA TVL-10MAY08 RULE-4124 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-VA14N4E SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 166.51 0035 E09APR08 D07AUG09 FC-VA14N4E FN-B
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09APR08/2155 EXPIRES INFINITY
<end clip>
I see FROM-NYC and TO-LAS. No connections allowed? I tried a sample of my own: LAX-RDU. There are no direct flights between these two airports, so at least one connection has to be in there. Here are the rules expedia.ca returned:
From: Los Angeles, CA, United States (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/‡ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY
Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.
What am I missing? Thanks for your help, bk3day.
#185
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Location: Greener Pastures
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Sometimes lower price fares have more rules & the rules aren't always show in full. Try looking at a First class fare on your airline for the same route - that should bring up the full amount of rules. Sorry that this thread hasn't been updated in many many many many moons...
I've been hoping someone would take the initiative to shift the info to the FlyerTalk Wiki on Mileage Running, but that hasn't happened & I've been traveling so much over the past two years (weekly...literally) that it hasn't been a priority for me to update it. I hope to eventually get the time & inclination to do it.
I've been hoping someone would take the initiative to shift the info to the FlyerTalk Wiki on Mileage Running, but that hasn't happened & I've been traveling so much over the past two years (weekly...literally) that it hasn't been a priority for me to update it. I hope to eventually get the time & inclination to do it.
#186
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Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,952
From: Los Angeles, CA, United States (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY
Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY
Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - WSpan: LAX-RDU/US/SXA0NJ4/536 USD]
Code:
LAXRDU-US 1MAY08 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0011 RULE 3030 FARE BASIS USD TAX TOTAL PTC FT SXA0NJ4 249.30 18.70 268.00 ADT NL SXA0NJ4/IN00 0.00 0.00 0.00 INF NL BOOKING CODES S FIRST TRAVEL -18MAR08 SEASONS - NO RESTRICTION PENALTIES - CANCEL-NON REF CHANGE-100.00 USD SEE TEXT RULE FOR ALL CONDITIONS SEE TEXT RULE DAY/TIME - NO RESTRICTION ADV RES/TKT - TKTG WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS OR AT LEAST 30 MINUTES BEFORE DEPART WHICHEVER IS EARLIER WAITLISTING NOT PERMITTED ALL SEGMENTS MIN STAY - NO RESTRICTION MAX STAY - NO RESTRICTION BLACKOUTS - DAILY 2:01A THRU 7:59P 15MAY08-16MAY08 18MAY08 22MAY08 01JUN08 08JUN08 13JUN08-14JUN08 15JUN08 19JUN08-20JUN08 21JUN08-23JUN08 26JUN08-29JUN08 03JUL08 05JUL08-07JUL08 13JUL08 17JUL08 FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE TEXT RULE SURCHARGES - SEE TEXT RULE FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE RULE TEXT 4.65 USD FUEL PER TICKET STOPOVERS - NOT PERMITTED TRANSFERS - 6 PERMITTED OUTBOUND 3 INBOUND 3 FLT APPLIC - MUST NOT BE VIA IAD CHILD DISC - 1ST INF UNDER 2 YRS FREE NO SEAT OTHER DISC - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. OTHER/GROUP DISCOUNTS ARE PERMITTED - CHECK CARRIER FOR DETAILS. COMBINABLTY - SEE TEXT RULE ELIGIBILITY - NO RESTRICTION ACCOM PSGR - NO RESTRICTION TVL RESTR - OUTBOUND MUST BEGIN ON/AFTER 13MAY07 DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP SALES RESTR - PERIOD OF VALIDITY ALL TICKETS WILL BE VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR ONE /1/ YEAR FROM DATE OF ORIGINAL ISSUE UNLESS A SHORTER PERIOD IS INDICATED ON THE TICKET. NEGOTIATED - NO RESTRICTION TKT ENDORSE - ORIGINAL/REISSUED TKT - STNDBY/CHG FEE/NO RFND/ MUST APPEAR IN ENDORSEMENT BOX ORIGINAL/REISSUED TKT - CXL BY FLT DT/ MUST APPEAR IN ENDORSEMENT BOX APPLICATION - SEE TEXT RULE INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG ROUTING 300 FROM-TO LAX-BOS/CLT/LAS/PHL/PHX/PIT/WAS-RDU*
#187
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: LAX
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Posts: 33
Ah ha! kvstool.com appears to be the most detailed way to pull the routing rules. Thanks KVS!
I tried pulling the rules from expedia.ca, using the first class suggestion from bhatnasx. No luck, same thing as econ: just the city pair, no routing. For those who read this thread as time goes on, I'd say expedia.ca is no longer a reliable source for routing rules. Not an easy one, at least.
Wandering off topic... I'd love to help update the wiki, since that's a great format for this type of information. Encyclopedic, versus discussion based. My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing !
I'm off to play with the kvstool.com site, thanks for the heads up!
I tried pulling the rules from expedia.ca, using the first class suggestion from bhatnasx. No luck, same thing as econ: just the city pair, no routing. For those who read this thread as time goes on, I'd say expedia.ca is no longer a reliable source for routing rules. Not an easy one, at least.
Wandering off topic... I'd love to help update the wiki, since that's a great format for this type of information. Encyclopedic, versus discussion based. My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing !

I'm off to play with the kvstool.com site, thanks for the heads up!
#188



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I have read the FAQ, and searched around, but I can't find the answer to this question. Is there any site that will allow me to get a listing of available fares on one specific weekend (ie Memorial Day weekend) on a specific airline WITHOUT specifying a destination? I really don't care where I go. :-) I know I can use FC to get a listing of fares, but that wont allow me to filter by date...Before I go entering every possible city as a destination, I thought I would at least ask...
#189


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Can't get you to a specific weekend, but would a one-week period help? Select a region & then you can narrow the time frame by month & week.
#190



Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Long Island, NY
Programs: United 1K, AA Plat Exec, DL Plat, Marriott Titanium Lifetime Elite, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,906
Can't get you to a specific weekend, but would a one-week period help? Select a region & then you can narrow the time frame by month & week.
#191


Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL, AA
Posts: 6,033
It would be great, if the fares actually existed...ie I see a NYC-MSP fare on UA for 208rt...but it doesn't even exist...the normal problem with FC. :-( It would be great if some travel site, like Orbitz, had "where i can go this weekend" as a button...right now all there is are the lastminute.com links from the sites, and those include hotel etc...

You suggested "FC... won't allow me to filter by date". I was just showing where you can find such a filter on FC.
What you are asking for would be GREAT. I would use such a tool as well, so if you find one please let me know.
#192
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bay Area
Programs: UA, Marriott, WN
Posts: 3,864
I have read the FAQ, and searched around, but I can't find the answer to this question. Is there any site that will allow me to get a listing of available fares on one specific weekend (ie Memorial Day weekend) on a specific airline WITHOUT specifying a destination? I really don't care where I go. :-) I know I can use FC to get a listing of fares, but that wont allow me to filter by date...Before I go entering every possible city as a destination, I thought I would at least ask...
#193




Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: Skyteam
Posts: 5,776
#195




Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Programs: NW-PE, Blue Star SeaSmiles
Posts: 6,789
Posted this in the FC thread but thought it warranted a post here. FC now has a fare listing tool.
http://www.farecompare.com/fare-display/index.html
Anyone cross checked it with KVS?
http://www.farecompare.com/fare-display/index.html
Anyone cross checked it with KVS?

