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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 4:14 am
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Top of your screen, under "Extras" is the link to the Frequent Flyer Wiki.
Unfortunately a lot of the wiki pages still need to be updated. It would only take a few minutes for some FTers to make them quite useful. I just added some simple updates to http://flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php...r_Award_Values for example. Maybe each individual program forum should have a sticky to encourage them to update their program specific page.
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fare routing rules from websites?

Hi, I'm a newbie, but I promise I've read the sticky on Mileage Runs, searched around in several other threads, and thus I think I've learned that routing rules are no longer available on any websites, except possibly ExpertFlyer.com. Is this accurate?

(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)

(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)

Thanks for any update.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by larapidrider
Hi, I'm a newbie, but I promise I've read the sticky on Mileage Runs, searched around in several other threads, and thus I think I've learned that routing rules are no longer available on any websites, except possibly ExpertFlyer.com. Is this accurate?

(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676403 this thread died with out a final resolution)

(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666185 this thread references expedia.ca, but I've been there and had no luck finding routing rules. It seems to be a dated reference)

Thanks for any update.
First, ...:-: Welcome to FT :-:

Next thanks for trying to search to find the answer to your question ^

fwiw, I just checked "XP to the north" and on the sample booking I picked at random, the routing rules (albeit w/o the complete city to city routing examples) were still there

for example:

yhpm on how to pull this up
PHP Code:
From: New York, NY, United States (JFK-Kennedy)
To: Las Vegas, NV, United States (LAS-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: VA14N4E

    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   VA14N4E        V X   191.45 R07AU        14/1  -/  -   35
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-NYC TO-LAS    CXR-UA    TVL-10MAY08  RULE-4124 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-VA14N4E           SPECIAL FARE  DIS-N   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP      OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD   166.51  0035  E09APR08 D07AUG09   FC-VA14N4E  FN-B   
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09APR08/2155  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
   NORMAL FARES
   APPLICATION
    CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY/COACH CLASS
      SERVICE.
    TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
    CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
     SEATS ARE LIMITED.
01.ELIGIBILITY
   NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
   NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
   NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
   CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
   LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
   STANDBY PERMITTED FOR EARLIER / LATER SAME DAY FLIGHTS
   OTHERWISE WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
   TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
   RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE
   DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          THE TKTG AFTER RES REQ WILL NOT APPL WHEN FARES
          ARE COMB W/OTHER FARES TO CONST THRU INTL TRANS
          T/F PTS OUTSIDE THE US/CA/MX/BM/BS/WEST INDIES
          PROVIDED AT LEAST ONE INTERNATIONAL SEGMENT
          OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA IS VIA UA.
          NOTIFICATION OF THE TICKET NUMBER IS REQUIRED AND
          MUST BE VIA A TKNA OR TKNM SSR.
06.MINIMUM STAY
   NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
   NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
08.STOPOVERS
   2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN DEN AT
   USD 55.81.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          NOT VALID ON NONSTOP ROUTINGS OR ROUTINGS THAT DO
          NOT HAVE DEN AS AN INTERMEDIATE POINT.
09.TRANSFERS
   4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
   FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
   THE FARE COMPONENT.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
10.COMBINATIONS
    
    ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
    ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO
    FORM SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT ROUND TRIPS/
    MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS.
    END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
    TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
   NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
          POINT -
          BUR-LAX  BUR-ONT  BUR-SNA  BWI-WAS  EWR-HPN
          EWR-HVN  EWR-ISP  EWR-NYC  FLL-MIA  FLL-PBI
          HVN-HPN  HVN-ISP  HVN-NYC  ISP-HPN  ISP-NYC
          LAX-ONT  LAX-SNA  MIA-PBI  NYC-HPN  OAK-SFO
          OAK-SJC  ONT-SNA  SFO-SJC
11.BLACKOUT DATES
   FROM LAS -
   IF TRAVEL OCCURS 200AM TO 759PM DAILY
     TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 27APR08 OR ON 11MAY08 OR
     ON 16MAY08 OR ON 18MAY08 OR 21MAY08 THROUGH 23MAY08
     OR 25MAY08 THROUGH 27MAY08 OR ON 30MAY08 OR 01JUN08
     THROUGH 02JUN08 OR ON 06JUN08 OR ON 08JUN08 OR
     12JUN08 THROUGH 14JUN08 OR 15JUN08 THROUGH 16JUN08
     OR 19JUN08 THROUGH 25JUN08 OR 26JUN08 THROUGH
     30JUN08 OR 06JUL08 THROUGH 07JUL08 OR ON 20JUL08 OR
     ON 24JUL08 OR 27JUL08 THROUGH 28JUL08 OR ON 01AUG08
     OR ON 03AUG08 OR ON 08AUG08 OR ON 10AUG08 OR ON
     17AUG08 OR ON 01SEP08 OR ON 07SEP08 OR ON 14SEP08 OR
     ON 21SEP08 OR ON 28SEP08 OR ON 05OCT08 OR ON 12OCT08
     OR 19OCT08 THROUGH 20OCT08 OR ON 26OCT08 OR ON
     02NOV08 OR 09NOV08 THROUGH 10NOV08 OR ON 16NOV08 OR
     23NOV08 THROUGH 25NOV08 OR ON 30NOV08 OR ON 07DEC08
     OR ON 14DEC08 OR 18DEC08 THROUGH 21DEC08 OR 23DEC08
     THROUGH 28DEC08 OR 30DEC08 THROUGH 31DEC08 OR ON
     11JAN09 OR ON 19JAN09 OR ON 25JAN09.
   TO LAS -
   IF TRAVEL OCCURS 200AM TO 759PM DAILY
     TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15MAY08 THROUGH 16MAY08 OR
     ON 18MAY08 OR 22MAY08 THROUGH 23MAY08 OR ON 29MAY08
     OR ON 01JUN08 OR 05JUN08 THROUGH 06JUN08 OR ON
     08JUN08 OR 11JUN08 THROUGH 13JUN08 OR 15JUN08
     THROUGH 16JUN08 OR 18JUN08 THROUGH 21JUN08 OR
     22JUN08 THROUGH 23JUN08 OR 25JUN08 THROUGH 29JUN08
     OR 06JUL08 THROUGH 07JUL08 OR ON 18JUL08 OR 26JUL08
     THROUGH 27JUL08 OR ON 01AUG08 OR ON 03AUG08 OR ON
     08AUG08 OR ON 10AUG08 OR ON 17AUG08 OR ON 29AUG08 OR
     ON 12OCT08 OR 19OCT08 THROUGH 20OCT08 OR 09NOV08
     THROUGH 10NOV08 OR 23NOV08 THROUGH 25NOV08 OR ON
     30NOV08 OR 18DEC08 THROUGH 21DEC08 OR 23DEC08
     THROUGH 28DEC08 OR ON 04JAN09 OR ON 16JAN09.
12.SURCHARGES
   FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 23.26 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
   ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
          CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
          ----
          RULES GOVERNING FARES FOR TRAVEL ON A SEGMENT
          ON WHICH A SURCHARGE APPLIES WILL ALSO GOVERN
          THE SURCHARGE.
          EXCEPTION - THE FOLLOWING PASSENGERS ARE EXEMPT
          FROM THESE CHARGES-
          1.  PASSENGERS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON ANY UA FREE
              TICKET OR ON UA/OTHER AIRLINES EMPLOYEE
              REDUCED FARE TICKETS.
          2.  PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON FARES EXCLUDED WITH
              CATEGORY 12 - SURCHARGE - IN THE FARE RULES.
   AND - FROM LAS -
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 9.30 PER FARE
     COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE ON
     SUN.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          THIS PEAK TRAVEL SURCHARGE IS ASSESSED ON A FARE
          COMPONENT BASIS.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
   ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
   TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT MUST COMMENCE BY
   MIDNIGHT ON 07AUG09.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
   TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY MAIL/MECHANICAL MEANS.
16.PENALTIES
   CANCELLATIONS
   
     TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          - A WHOLLY UNUSED NON-REFUNDABLE TICKET MAY BE
            APPLIED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
            PROVIDED NEW TICKET IS ISSUED NO LATER THAN
            ONE YEAR FROM ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE.
          - PASSENGER MUST CANCEL TICKETED FLIGHT
            RESERVATION ON/BEFORE THE ORIGINAL TICKETED
            DEPARTURE DATE OTHERWISE REBOOKING IS NOT
            PERMITTED AND TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
          - PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON COMPANION FARES MUST
            PRESENT ALL TICKETS AT THE SAME TIME.
   
   CHANGES
   
     CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/UNTICKTED PTA.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED UP TO ONE YEAR FROM
          ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED THE PASSENGER
          CANCELS THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION ON/BEFORE
          TICKETED DAY OF DEPARTURE.  IF NOT CANCELED
          REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND TICKET HAS NO VALUE
          IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME ONLY
          ONE CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY PER TICKET.  IF FARES
          WITH DIFFERENT CHANGE FEES ARE COMBINED ON THE
          SAME TICKET THE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
          COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
          TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE
          IS MADE.
          -------------------------------------------------
          GUARANTEED AIR FARE
          IF A DECREASE IN FARE AMOUNT OCCURS AFTER THE
          TICKET IS PURCHASED AND PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF
          TRAVEL OR A NEW FARE FOR WHICH THE PASSENGER
          QUALIFIES BECOMES EFFECTIVE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE
          WILL BE CREDITED/REFUNDED PROVIDED-
          1. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/STOP
             OVER POINTS/FLIGHTS/DATES.
          2. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MUST BE
             MET.
          3. THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE OF ISSUE MAY NOT BE
             USED TO SATISFY THE ADVANCE RESERVATION AND
             TICKETING REQUIREMENTS.
          4. THE BOOKING CODE OF THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MAY
             DIFFER FROM THE BOOKING CODE ON THE ORIGINAL
             TICKET.
          THE PASSENGER MAY CHOOSE FROM THE FOLLOWING
          OPTIONS-
          1. REFUND TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT MINUS
             A 100.00 USD SERVICE CHARGE.
          2. REFUND THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES WITHOUT A
             SERVICE CHARGE TO A NON-REFUNDABLE UNITED MCO
             WHICH CAN BE USED TOWARD FUTURE TRAVEL. THE UA
             MCO MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR A UA TICKET WITHIN
             ONE YEAR OF THE MCO ISSUE DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          CHANGES OTHER THAN GUARANTEED AIR FARE
           ---
          PRIOR TO DEPARTURE-
          1. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE
             IS NO CHANGE TO THE FIRST FLIGHT/COUPON..STOP
             OVER POINTS OR FARE BREAK POINTS.
             A. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS MAY BE
                MADE AT ANY TIME FOR THE SERVICE CHARGE
                WITHOUT REGARD TO THE ADVANCE RESERVATION
                PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER
                REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
                - ATTEMPT TO REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING THE
                  SAME FARES THAT WERE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
                  THE ORIGINAL TICKET WAS ISSUED.
                - ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
                  CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
             B. IF THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A CHANGE TO
                THE DAY OF WEEK REQUIREMENT ON THE RETURN/
                CONTINUING FLIGHTS AND THERE IS NO CHANGE TO
                OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED
                FARE-
                - ATTEMPT TO REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING
                  FARES FROM THE SAME TARIFF/RULE THAT WERE
                  IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE ORIGINAL TICKET
                  WAS ISSUED.
                - ALL OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINAL FARE
                  EXCEPT ADVANCE PURCHASE REQUIREMENT MUST
                  BE MET.
                - ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
                  CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
                - IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO
                  RESIDUAL VALUE APPLIES AND THE FULL
                  SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED.
          2. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE
             IS NO CHANGE TO THE FIRST FLIGHT/COUPON-
             A. IF CHANGES ARE MADE THAT PROHIBIT KEEPING
                THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE-
                - REPRICE ENTIRE NEW ITINERARY USING CURRENT
                  FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DAY OF REISSUE.
                - ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE SERVICE
                  CHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED.
                - IF THE NEW FARE IS LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL
                  TICKETED FARE - SUBTRACT THE SERVICE
                  CHARGE FROM THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT AND APPLY
                  THE BALANCE TO A NON-REFUNDABLE UNITED MCO
                  OR UNITED TRAVEL VOUCHER.
          ---
          OR
                - CANCEL ITINERARY AND START OVER.
                - COLLECT THE SERVICE CHARGE AND ANY
                  DIFFERENCE IN FARES BETWEEN THE ORIGINALLY
                  TICKETED FARE AND THE NEW FARE.
                - IF THE NEW FARE IS LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL-
                  LY TICKETED FARE - SUBTRACT THE SERVICE
                  CHARGE FROM THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT AND APPLY 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 11:49 am
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Interesting. I've been able to see these rules at expedia.ca as well. But is this an example that reflects no mileage run possiblitites, or am I ingorantly missing the routing rules?
<clipping:>
From: New York, NY, United States (JFK-Kennedy)
To: Las Vegas, NV, United States (LAS-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: VA14N4E

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VA14N4E V X 191.45 R07AU 14/1 -/ - 35
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-NYC TO-LAS CXR-UA TVL-10MAY08 RULE-4124 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-VA14N4E SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 166.51 0035 E09APR08 D07AUG09 FC-VA14N4E FN-B
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09APR08/2155 EXPIRES INFINITY
<end clip>

I see FROM-NYC and TO-LAS. No connections allowed? I tried a sample of my own: LAX-RDU. There are no direct flights between these two airports, so at least one connection has to be in there. Here are the rules expedia.ca returned:

From: Los Angeles, CA, United States (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/‡ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY

Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.

What am I missing? Thanks for your help, bk3day.
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Sometimes lower price fares have more rules & the rules aren't always show in full. Try looking at a First class fare on your airline for the same route - that should bring up the full amount of rules. Sorry that this thread hasn't been updated in many many many many moons...

I've been hoping someone would take the initiative to shift the info to the FlyerTalk Wiki on Mileage Running, but that hasn't happened & I've been traveling so much over the past two years (weekly...literally) that it hasn't been a priority for me to update it. I hope to eventually get the time & inclination to do it.
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Originally Posted by larapidrider
From: Los Angeles, CA, United States (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Raleigh, NC, United States (RDU-Raleigh Durham Intl.)
Fare Basis Code: SXA0NJ4

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 SXA0NJ4 S X 272.94 ---- -/ -/ - 300
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-RDU CXR-US TVL-21APR08 RULE-3030 DFR/11
FARE BASIS-SXA0NJ4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE
USD 249.30 0300 E13MAY07 D-INFINITY FC-SXA0NJ4 FN-I
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18MAR08/1157 EXPIRES INFINITY

Note that it says FROM-LAX TO-RDU. There isn't any connection listed in there, which is impossible.
That's just the city pair, here is the routing:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - WSpan: LAX-RDU/US/SXA0NJ4/536 USD]
Code:
LAXRDU-US  1MAY08      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0011 RULE 3030

FARE BASIS              USD       TAX       TOTAL   PTC  FT
SXA0NJ4              249.30     18.70      268.00   ADT  NL
SXA0NJ4/IN00           0.00      0.00        0.00   INF  NL

BOOKING CODES        S
FIRST TRAVEL    -18MAR08
SEASONS     - NO RESTRICTION
PENALTIES   - CANCEL-NON REF
CHANGE-100.00 USD
SEE TEXT RULE
FOR ALL CONDITIONS SEE TEXT RULE
DAY/TIME    - NO RESTRICTION
ADV RES/TKT - TKTG WITHIN 1 DAY
AFTER RESERVATIONS OR AT LEAST 30
MINUTES BEFORE DEPART WHICHEVER IS EARLIER
WAITLISTING NOT PERMITTED ALL SEGMENTS
MIN STAY    - NO RESTRICTION
MAX STAY    - NO RESTRICTION
BLACKOUTS   - DAILY  2:01A THRU  7:59P 15MAY08-16MAY08
18MAY08 22MAY08 01JUN08 08JUN08
13JUN08-14JUN08 15JUN08 19JUN08-20JUN08
21JUN08-23JUN08 26JUN08-29JUN08 03JUL08
05JUL08-07JUL08 13JUL08 17JUL08
FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE TEXT RULE
SURCHARGES  - SEE TEXT RULE
FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE RULE TEXT
4.65 USD FUEL PER TICKET
STOPOVERS   - NOT PERMITTED
TRANSFERS   - 6 PERMITTED OUTBOUND 3 INBOUND 3
FLT APPLIC  - MUST NOT BE VIA IAD
CHILD DISC  - 1ST INF UNDER 2 YRS FREE NO SEAT
OTHER DISC  - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
OTHER/GROUP DISCOUNTS ARE PERMITTED - CHECK
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
COMBINABLTY - SEE TEXT RULE
ELIGIBILITY - NO RESTRICTION
ACCOM PSGR  - NO RESTRICTION
TVL RESTR   - OUTBOUND MUST BEGIN ON/AFTER 13MAY07
DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP
SALES RESTR - PERIOD OF VALIDITY
ALL TICKETS WILL BE VALID FOR
TRANSPORTATION FOR ONE /1/ YEAR FROM DATE
OF ORIGINAL ISSUE UNLESS A SHORTER PERIOD IS
INDICATED ON THE TICKET.
NEGOTIATED  - NO RESTRICTION
TKT ENDORSE - ORIGINAL/REISSUED TKT -
STNDBY/CHG FEE/NO RFND/ MUST APPEAR IN
ENDORSEMENT BOX ORIGINAL/REISSUED TKT -
CXL BY FLT DT/ MUST APPEAR IN ENDORSEMENT BOX
APPLICATION - SEE TEXT RULE
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG
ROUTING  300 FROM-TO  LAX-BOS/CLT/LAS/PHL/PHX/PIT/WAS-RDU*
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Ah ha! kvstool.com appears to be the most detailed way to pull the routing rules. Thanks KVS!

I tried pulling the rules from expedia.ca, using the first class suggestion from bhatnasx. No luck, same thing as econ: just the city pair, no routing. For those who read this thread as time goes on, I'd say expedia.ca is no longer a reliable source for routing rules. Not an easy one, at least.

Wandering off topic... I'd love to help update the wiki, since that's a great format for this type of information. Encyclopedic, versus discussion based. My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing !

I'm off to play with the kvstool.com site, thanks for the heads up!
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Old May 22, 2008 | 4:22 pm
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I have read the FAQ, and searched around, but I can't find the answer to this question. Is there any site that will allow me to get a listing of available fares on one specific weekend (ie Memorial Day weekend) on a specific airline WITHOUT specifying a destination? I really don't care where I go. :-) I know I can use FC to get a listing of fares, but that wont allow me to filter by date...Before I go entering every possible city as a destination, I thought I would at least ask...
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Can't get you to a specific weekend, but would a one-week period help? Select a region & then you can narrow the time frame by month & week.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by scoow
Can't get you to a specific weekend, but would a one-week period help? Select a region & then you can narrow the time frame by month & week.
It would be great, if the fares actually existed...ie I see a NYC-MSP fare on UA for 208rt...but it doesn't even exist...the normal problem with FC. :-( It would be great if some travel site, like Orbitz, had "where i can go this weekend" as a button...right now all there is are the lastminute.com links from the sites, and those include hotel etc...
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
It would be great, if the fares actually existed...ie I see a NYC-MSP fare on UA for 208rt...but it doesn't even exist...the normal problem with FC. :-( It would be great if some travel site, like Orbitz, had "where i can go this weekend" as a button...right now all there is are the lastminute.com links from the sites, and those include hotel etc...
Ah... you want fares you can actually book! Well, that's an entirely different problem.
You suggested "FC... won't allow me to filter by date". I was just showing where you can find such a filter on FC.

What you are asking for would be GREAT. I would use such a tool as well, so if you find one please let me know.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
I have read the FAQ, and searched around, but I can't find the answer to this question. Is there any site that will allow me to get a listing of available fares on one specific weekend (ie Memorial Day weekend) on a specific airline WITHOUT specifying a destination? I really don't care where I go. :-) I know I can use FC to get a listing of fares, but that wont allow me to filter by date...Before I go entering every possible city as a destination, I thought I would at least ask...
Going back to this question, is there a tool that will let you just put in a departure city, no dates at all and give you a list of cheap destinations from say, now till the end of the year?
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by primusux
Going back to this question, is there a tool that will let you just put in a departure city, no dates at all and give you a list of cheap destinations from say, now till the end of the year?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by skchin
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 8:31 am
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Posted this in the FC thread but thought it warranted a post here. FC now has a fare listing tool.

http://www.farecompare.com/fare-display/index.html

Anyone cross checked it with KVS?
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