HUGE NYC Redemption Devaluation
#17
Company Representative - Wyndham Rewards
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: Wyndham Rewards
Posts: 395
Hi,
We appreciate your feedback. There were changes made to the Free Night Tier level for locations in NYC. We wanted to let you know that we have adjusted the point level for the Wingate by Wyndham Midtown on 35th St in NYC from 45,000 points to 35,000 points. The other locations’ point levels will remain as is. We take your feedback seriously and will do a better job at communicating changes in the future. In the meantime, if you could send me a private message with your member # and details about the free night you were trying to book, I can take a look at your account for you.
We appreciate your feedback. There were changes made to the Free Night Tier level for locations in NYC. We wanted to let you know that we have adjusted the point level for the Wingate by Wyndham Midtown on 35th St in NYC from 45,000 points to 35,000 points. The other locations’ point levels will remain as is. We take your feedback seriously and will do a better job at communicating changes in the future. In the meantime, if you could send me a private message with your member # and details about the free night you were trying to book, I can take a look at your account for you.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: CHA/TYS
Programs: The Mac Daddy of Heimlich County (and low-ball status)
Posts: 2,868
10 days later is a bit ridiculous if you guys are going to have reps on here. So, you're saying the only tier level change was for NYC? Is that really the only change?
#19
Company Representative - Wyndham Rewards
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Global
Programs: Wyndham Rewards
Posts: 147
Sorry for the delayed initial response. Yes, the recent changes to the Free Night Tier levels were for a few properties in NYC. As noted in my colleague's reply, we will be sure to communicate changes in the future. Thank you so much for your feedback.
#20
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 245
Loyalty points are supposed to be rewarding, as a thank you for staying with Wyndham. This moves shows us that Wyndham is less appreciative of their regular customers than what they initially set out to do. Wyndham sold hotel nights based on initial reward expectation, only now that they got the money, they pull their promises and go back on their words. Changes are fine (5-10% increase or so each year), but 150% change at any one time is absolutely insane and unacceptable. Mozambique's currency inflation a few years ago comes to mind.
I probably won't be staying at Wyndham again in the future, and I bet I'm not gonna be the only one.
I probably won't be staying at Wyndham again in the future, and I bet I'm not gonna be the only one.
#21
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FLL/MIA
Programs: PC Platinum, Hyatt GP Diamond, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 248
Almost all programs of major hotel chains (IHG, SPG, Hyatt) gave us an advance notice about redemption changes and allowed us to book at the "old" rate for 60 days.
Wyndham had done it abruptly and I see no goodwill on their end to let us book at the old rate for 60 days.
What a shame this is...
RM
Wyndham had done it abruptly and I see no goodwill on their end to let us book at the old rate for 60 days.
What a shame this is...
RM
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
IMHO WyndhamRewards primarily competes with Choice and Best Western, not with SPG or Hyatt! What does SPG or Hyatt have to compare with Super 8, TravelLodge, Days Inn, etc?????
And neither Choice nor Best Western necessarily give advance notice for all redemption changes. Choice does have a calendar for a couple quarters ahead, but sometimes that calendar changes, and when they have redemption sales, both the start and end of the sale are unannounced (FTers only know about them if they stumble on them or read about other FTers who stumbled on them). I've never heard of advance notice (or any notice) of a Best Western redemption amount change at all, I've just seen some hotels change here or there now and then.
#23
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FLL/MIA
Programs: PC Platinum, Hyatt GP Diamond, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 248
Obviously, BW, Choice and Wyndham do not want to play it by the "service" book and they can get away with it because customers/guests let them do that.
RM