WS adding seats to existing fleet.
#46
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My beef (& its a bit of a tongue in cheek one) is that on YYT-LGW, If you're lucky enough to get a whole plus row to yourself, what you want to do is removed the table strapped into the blocked seats so you can put the armrests down and lie out across all three. Not sure how this would go down with the FA's!
Agree with that. Thread drifting a bit - there is a conundrum that airlines and inflight connectivity providers are conveniently ignoring. Fitting Satellite Wifi is all well and good but when the seat pitch changes to cram more in, it becomes a bit pointless if there is no room to get your laptop out and actually work. Or connectivity becomes a tablet/phone thing only and thats much less productive for the business traveller thus restricting potential uptake rate.
Agree with that. Thread drifting a bit - there is a conundrum that airlines and inflight connectivity providers are conveniently ignoring. Fitting Satellite Wifi is all well and good but when the seat pitch changes to cram more in, it becomes a bit pointless if there is no room to get your laptop out and actually work. Or connectivity becomes a tablet/phone thing only and thats much less productive for the business traveller thus restricting potential uptake rate.
#47
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My beef (& its a bit of a tongue in cheek one) is that on YYT-LGW, If you're lucky enough to get a whole plus row to yourself, what you want to do is removed the table strapped into the blocked seats so you can put the armrests down and lie out across all three. Not sure how this would go down with the FA's!
#48
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The current standard seat program was approved and planned 3 years ago. Recaro and the leather suppliers require a minimum of a year to produce the seats. A decision to put 2x2 seats in would have to be incorporated into the fleet planning schedule for summer 2018 if the decision was made now.
The seats there now are rubbish and have no features so replacing them with standard used J seats would be easy.
Since WS just added 20%+ with the "flexible" Plus they need to include something to justify the cost because they are pricing themselves out of some markets.
I am not flying refundable Plus on WS any more to SJO, for example. I can fly with better seats, food and service on Copa for a small amount, e.g. <$200 more.
#49
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If you fly domestically much - WS uses proper 737s on a lot of western routes that AC puts on Q400s and CRAs. I'll actually pay a little more to get off a Q400 and onto a 737 especially if it means I'm flying over the Rockies.
#50
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#51
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With the new seat configuration . . .
Does anyone know what will be the new exit row configuration on the 737-8?
Today, rows 13 and 14 are extra legroom rows on the 738s ... with row 13 being deemed less desirable since the seats don't recline. Here's the official (current) image from WestJet's website:
Will there still be two full rows of extra legroom in the new layout?
(I think row 13 is the best deal going. I don't recline my seat, but I'm tall and want extra legroom!)
Does anyone know what will be the new exit row configuration on the 737-8?
Today, rows 13 and 14 are extra legroom rows on the 738s ... with row 13 being deemed less desirable since the seats don't recline. Here's the official (current) image from WestJet's website:
Will there still be two full rows of extra legroom in the new layout?
(I think row 13 is the best deal going. I don't recline my seat, but I'm tall and want extra legroom!)
#53
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If I recall, we have a thread on here where Aerobod tells us which seats have 32" pitch. If I remember, it was like row 4-10 on the starboard side, and row 4-6 on the port side.
#54
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Row 1: 43 in
Row 2-3: 36 in
Row 4-12 & 15-29: 31-33 in
EE Row 13: 38 in
EE Row 14: 39 in
#56
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#57
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Aerobod had provided great info about the 737-700 in posts 6 and 22 'upstream' at the beginning of this same topic/thread... here's the link to his post # 6 on the first page:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28078212-post6.html
I was hoping to find similarly detailed info on the 737-800 ... but can't find it here.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28078212-post6.html
I was hoping to find similarly detailed info on the 737-800 ... but can't find it here.
#58
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#59
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The reasons that I asked the question:
Westjet is changing their seating configuration on their aircraft ... the whole topic of this thread. That means exit row configuration is likely changing, too.
If I'm already booked in an exit row seat on multiple upcoming flights on the 800 (which I am, in row 13 to be exact), I want to ensure that the new configuration (a) still has row 13 as an exit row and (b) does not become one of those 'exit rows where you don't actually get a lot of legroom'. If I show up for my upcoming flights and find that I'm on a reconfigured plane - and that my seat in row 13 has been reconfigured to something other than what I expect - I want to know that now so I can change.
And, FWIW, I'd like to know what's happening to seat pitch throughout the aircraft. When I fly with my family, I'm freakishly tall but - due to age restrictions - they can't sit with me in the exit row. And booking Plus for the whole family is not always do-able.