Status credits for points plus pay?
Jan 1, 2015, 12:20 am
#1
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Status credits for points plus pay?
Just like the title said, can you earn status credits for points plus pay?
Also, when booking a flight, how can I tell how SC will be earned? "Discount Economy", "Economy" etc don't translate to "Saver", "Flexi" etc. I called Velocity to ask, and they had no idea either.
Also, when booking a flight, how can I tell how SC will be earned? "Discount Economy", "Economy" etc don't translate to "Saver", "Flexi" etc. I called Velocity to ask, and they had no idea either.
Jan 1, 2015, 6:13 am
#2
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 335
SCs are not earned on reward seats.
SC earned table,
https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.co...StatusCredits/
SC earned table,
https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.co...StatusCredits/
Jan 1, 2015, 6:38 pm
#3
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Status credits are normally earned when points are used in lieu of Cash for "Revenue" bookings in revenue classes (e.g. J for Business).
This is different from reward redemptions booked into award classes (e.g. Z for Business) which earn no points or SC's.
However, Points+Pay is typically a very poor use of points when compared to award redemptions.
This is different from reward redemptions booked into award classes (e.g. Z for Business) which earn no points or SC's.
However, Points+Pay is typically a very poor use of points when compared to award redemptions.
Jan 3, 2015, 6:06 am
#4
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Little old dog box, in Adelaide
Programs: Now back at base level for these 2:QFF-now NB, Virgin-Velocity-NR
Posts: 404
SaverLite and Saver fares are always discount Y. Earns the least SC.
The third choice in will earn you full Y SC.
And premium/business will earn the most.
Edit: under earning Status Credits, this one is from the Velocity Rewards/Velocity Frequent Flyer website.
Status Credits earned per one-way flight1 with the following airlines:
Virgin Australia2
Etihad Airways4
Virgin Samoa
Hawaiian Airlines
Singapore Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Virgin America
Air New Zealand3
SilkAir
Virgin Atlantic5
Zone
One-Way Miles
Discount Economy
Full Fare Economy
Premium Economy
Business/
First
1
0-750
10
20
30
40
2
751-1,500
15
30
45
60
3
1,501-3,000
20
40
60
80
4
3,001-5,000
30
60
90
120
5
5,001-8,000
40
80
120
160
6 8,001 +
50
100
150
200
If you click discount economy, full fare economy, premium economy or business, it will list subclasses.
I am not very good at taking screen shots though.
You can do dummy bookings, and look at the fare basis codes, the first alphabet is the clue to what class you will be in.
MEL to CHC, one way 17Jan15, SaverLite on VA, VA100 Aud$255.07, MSATA-look under M, and its discount Y SC earn.
The third choice in will earn you full Y SC.
And premium/business will earn the most.
Edit: under earning Status Credits, this one is from the Velocity Rewards/Velocity Frequent Flyer website.
Status Credits earned per one-way flight1 with the following airlines:
Virgin Australia2
Etihad Airways4
Virgin Samoa
Hawaiian Airlines
Singapore Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Virgin America
Air New Zealand3
SilkAir
Virgin Atlantic5
Zone
One-Way Miles
Discount Economy
Full Fare Economy
Premium Economy
Business/
First
1
0-750
10
20
30
40
2
751-1,500
15
30
45
60
3
1,501-3,000
20
40
60
80
4
3,001-5,000
30
60
90
120
5
5,001-8,000
40
80
120
160
6 8,001 +
50
100
150
200
If you click discount economy, full fare economy, premium economy or business, it will list subclasses.
I am not very good at taking screen shots though.
You can do dummy bookings, and look at the fare basis codes, the first alphabet is the clue to what class you will be in.
MEL to CHC, one way 17Jan15, SaverLite on VA, VA100 Aud$255.07, MSATA-look under M, and its discount Y SC earn.
Last edited by AustralianPoochie; Jan 3, 2015 at 6:16 am
Jan 5, 2015, 6:07 am
#5
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Location: Sydney Australia
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I must be blinder than I thought (I am vision impaired) because I cannot see anything either when I am booking or when I have the flicking ticket that says what fare class I am in. I book the cheapest ticket that I can. However, on a return trip SYD/MCY I got 10 SC one way and 20 on the one back. I just don't get it. It seems like it is secret or something.
We only travel for leisure, and use family pooling. Current SC are 290. Future trips leave us 30 SC short of Gold by early April. I want to pick up a few SCs, and it is bloody annoying because I am buggered if I can figure out which flights will give me enough.
We only travel for leisure, and use family pooling. Current SC are 290. Future trips leave us 30 SC short of Gold by early April. I want to pick up a few SCs, and it is bloody annoying because I am buggered if I can figure out which flights will give me enough.
Jan 5, 2015, 9:30 am
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Domestically you earn varying status credits for saver+saver-light (discount economy), flexi (full fare economy) and business fares. The amount earned also varies by distance zones: 750 miles or less, 751 to 1500 miles etc.
So, just go by the columns ("saver"="saver light"="Discount Economy" in this case).
More on that here: Earning Status Credits | Velocity
So, just go by the columns ("saver"="saver light"="Discount Economy" in this case).
More on that here: Earning Status Credits | Velocity
Jan 5, 2015, 2:09 pm
#7
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 335
Click "Fare Rules" and you should get a pop up with the fare coding.
Once you have your fare, you can figure out the ticket classification: https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.co...EarnFareClass/
Jan 6, 2015, 6:52 am
#8
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Little old dog box, in Adelaide
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Posts: 404
On QF, you do earn SC on the class you end up in, ie, if you have more than 5,000 QF FF points, and the rest you use a credit card to pay, to get into J, you will earn QF FF points and SC at that J rate.
Not sure on the VA side of things, you probably earn VR FF points and VR SC on the lower class, ie, the class you originally paid for.
I have used VA (VR) points plus pay a few times, and have never gotten the upper points or SC earn, but on QF, have had the earn at the upper class earn rate.
Agree with Osmo, its the first alphabet you need to see, on some fares, if its RFLEX, its the R you need to chase up, this earns you SC at the full Y rate. Ignore the wordings FLEX.
One last thing, if planning to book NZ (Air NZ) domestic within NZ flights, try to if you have a QF FF account, go fly JQ and earn 800 QF FF points and 10 QF SC for flying JQ withinin NZ.
Flying NZ on GrabaSeat, earns you nil on S class, also booking on VA website to fly domestic NZ flights will also be in S class a lot of the time, earning zilch.
Not sure on the VA side of things, you probably earn VR FF points and VR SC on the lower class, ie, the class you originally paid for.
I have used VA (VR) points plus pay a few times, and have never gotten the upper points or SC earn, but on QF, have had the earn at the upper class earn rate.
Agree with Osmo, its the first alphabet you need to see, on some fares, if its RFLEX, its the R you need to chase up, this earns you SC at the full Y rate. Ignore the wordings FLEX.
One last thing, if planning to book NZ (Air NZ) domestic within NZ flights, try to if you have a QF FF account, go fly JQ and earn 800 QF FF points and 10 QF SC for flying JQ withinin NZ.
Flying NZ on GrabaSeat, earns you nil on S class, also booking on VA website to fly domestic NZ flights will also be in S class a lot of the time, earning zilch.
Last edited by AustralianPoochie; Jan 6, 2015 at 7:05 am