Status credits and segments
Apr 28, 2016, 8:03 am
#16
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
That's my thinking. They are trying to attract and retain as many elevate people as possible because the program is being "thrown out" in the end (minus the conversion of status members and points to Mileage Plan).
Apr 29, 2016, 2:03 am
#17
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: Amtrak Guest Rewards (SE), Virgin America Elevate, Hyatt Gold Passport (Platinum), VIA Preference
Posts: 3,134
This is basically damage control IMHO; though I'm not ungrateful for it, this reeks of an impending de facto devaluation. Oh, wait, we already knew about that...
Consider that at present a UC award on VS runs...I want to say 25k/40k points (OW/RT), but I can't get into the website to check right now...
On Alaska, a US-Europe award is in BC is:
-62.5k/125k on Air France
-50k/100k on American
-60k/120k on British Airways
-NA/125k on Delta (R/T only)
-105k/210k on Emirates
-55k/110k on Icelandic
So basically this is a devaluation, Emirates notwithstanding, of 50-60% for one-way awards and 60-70% on round-trip awards. On Emirates it's about a straight 50% devaluation. I'll give credit where it's due, this is not a horrid pallative, and I think the segment point is actually a reasonable move WRT the "shuttle" markets in CA.
Consider that at present a UC award on VS runs...I want to say 25k/40k points (OW/RT), but I can't get into the website to check right now...
On Alaska, a US-Europe award is in BC is:
-62.5k/125k on Air France
-50k/100k on American
-60k/120k on British Airways
-NA/125k on Delta (R/T only)
-105k/210k on Emirates
-55k/110k on Icelandic
So basically this is a devaluation, Emirates notwithstanding, of 50-60% for one-way awards and 60-70% on round-trip awards. On Emirates it's about a straight 50% devaluation. I'll give credit where it's due, this is not a horrid pallative, and I think the segment point is actually a reasonable move WRT the "shuttle" markets in CA.
May 5, 2016, 7:03 am
#18
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,845
Anybody else having trouble with status point and segment posting? My regular flight point posting for the two flights I took last week came through several days ago but still no segment or status points. Wish they would get their systems working.
May 5, 2016, 5:54 pm
#19
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, Las Vegas
Programs: Global Entry/TSA PreCheck
Posts: 154
May 6, 2016, 11:10 am
#20
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP, Bonvoy Plat, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Hyatt Disc
Posts: 217
My thought is that they are making elevate points (now "credits") easier to acquire now in order ultimately to try and justify a crappy 1:1 exchange to less valuable Alaska points.
May 6, 2016, 1:00 pm
#21
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,845
May 6, 2016, 9:55 pm
#22
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: Amtrak Guest Rewards (SE), Virgin America Elevate, Hyatt Gold Passport (Platinum), VIA Preference
Posts: 3,134
Ditto. Like I said, it's a modest pallative and it's obvious that they're at least trying to be proactive. That being said, I'd very much have preferred them just doing a straight 2:1 conversion rather than going through a dog-and-pony show to justify 1:1...
...but then again, I don't tend to have much patience for Marketing in general.
...but then again, I don't tend to have much patience for Marketing in general.
Jun 28, 2016, 10:28 am
#24
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: LAX
Programs: Virgin America Gold, Virgin Atlantic Gold, AAdvantage Platinum, B6 Mosaic, HHonors Gold
Posts: 215
If you actually mean "status credits", I don't think you'll be receiving them as they are only awarded for spend.
Jun 28, 2016, 12:06 pm
#25
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: YVR SFO
Programs: UA G
Posts: 4,866
Here's the exact verbage on the website:
For Status in 2016, Virgin America travelers will earn status based on either the number of flights they take or the amount they spend purchasing flights. Reward flights will also be counted towards achieving status.
Jun 28, 2016, 2:16 pm
#26
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: LAX
Programs: Virgin America Gold, Virgin Atlantic Gold, AAdvantage Platinum, B6 Mosaic, HHonors Gold
Posts: 215
No, I was referring to status points. They certainly don't make it clear that only revenue tickets count toward status points; I booked a grip of award tickets thinking they were going to requalify me for status this year.
Here's the exact verbage on the website:
It's pretty weak if the flights don't count toward status points and they don't spell it out on the website
Here's the exact verbage on the website:
It's pretty weak if the flights don't count toward status points and they don't spell it out on the website
How To Earn Status Points
Your Elevate Silver or Elevate Gold Status is calculated daily based on the number of Elevate status points you’ve earned in a calendar year. We’ll check your Elevate account daily to see if you’re ready to take your membership to the next level.
How To Earn Status Segments
Your Elevate Silver or Elevate Gold Status is calculated daily based on the number of Elevate status segments you’ve earned in a calendar year. Status segments are any flight taken on Virgin America, including reward flights. We’ll check your Elevate account daily to see if you’re ready to take your membership to the next level.
Your Elevate Silver or Elevate Gold Status is calculated daily based on the number of Elevate status points you’ve earned in a calendar year. We’ll check your Elevate account daily to see if you’re ready to take your membership to the next level.
How To Earn Status Segments
Your Elevate Silver or Elevate Gold Status is calculated daily based on the number of Elevate status segments you’ve earned in a calendar year. Status segments are any flight taken on Virgin America, including reward flights. We’ll check your Elevate account daily to see if you’re ready to take your membership to the next level.