View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Nov 12, 2013, 2:24 pm
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Jul 24, 2013, 4:17 pm
#976
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
I would think that Day 1 would be the day that all approvals are in place. Not much of anything can happen before that.
US had said at least a month ago that the first change FFers would see would be the ability to earn US miles on "new" AA flights and vice versa - a blanket code share. The DOT and European authorities would need to approve the merger for that to happen.
Jim
US had said at least a month ago that the first change FFers would see would be the ability to earn US miles on "new" AA flights and vice versa - a blanket code share. The DOT and European authorities would need to approve the merger for that to happen.
Jim
Jul 24, 2013, 4:18 pm
#977
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
EU Regulators to AA/BA/IB JV: Drop one PHL-LHR slot to Approve US-AA Merger
My money is on the impending DL/VS JV to pick up the PHL-LHR slot pair. Thoughts?
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...ir_route_.html
"US Airways Group and American Airlines have offered to give up a pair of landing and takeoff slots at London's Heathrow Airport to a competitor that would fly between Philadelphia and London. European Union antitrust regulators have one concern: that after the $11 billion merger of US Airways and American, the new American, as the airline will be called, could substantially hike airfares between London and Philadelphia.
A competitor airline would likely want an earlier time and select Heathrow slot times now used for flights from New York, Chicago, or some other city. The airport losing the arrival and takeoff slots would have one fewer flight to London. Instead, Philadelphia would get the slots, and an additional flight, to satisfy EU regulators' concerns."
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...ir_route_.html
"US Airways Group and American Airlines have offered to give up a pair of landing and takeoff slots at London's Heathrow Airport to a competitor that would fly between Philadelphia and London. European Union antitrust regulators have one concern: that after the $11 billion merger of US Airways and American, the new American, as the airline will be called, could substantially hike airfares between London and Philadelphia.
A competitor airline would likely want an earlier time and select Heathrow slot times now used for flights from New York, Chicago, or some other city. The airport losing the arrival and takeoff slots would have one fewer flight to London. Instead, Philadelphia would get the slots, and an additional flight, to satisfy EU regulators' concerns."
Last edited by SOBE ER DOC; Jul 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm Reason: I can't spell
Jul 24, 2013, 4:21 pm
#978
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,810
Am I the only one who got a sinking feeling in their gut when they saw the November 1 join date, went to oneworld.com, saw the tail fins of all the 1W members, and asked myself - who the hell are these airlines??????
Last edited by IADCAflyer; Jul 24, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Jul 24, 2013, 4:27 pm
#979
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
BA
CX
QF
QR is joining next year.
These four carriers alone are some of the finest in the sky and can get you virtually anywhere you'd want to go. Quality over quantity.
Jul 24, 2013, 4:28 pm
#980
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NYS
Programs: Days of Our Lives, General Hospital
Posts: 1,495
airberlin
American Airlines
British Airways
Cathay Pacific
Finnair
Iberia
Japan Airlines
LAN
Malaysia Airlines
Qantas
Royal Jordanian
S7 Airlines.
Jul 24, 2013, 4:34 pm
#981
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
In addition to AA/BA, you've got JAL & Cathay Pacific (Asia), LAN (S America), Quantas (Australia, S Pacific/New Zealand), Royal Jordanian (Middle East) and the others.
Jim
Jim
Jul 24, 2013, 4:40 pm
#982
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PHL
Programs: Former long-time US GP; now AA dirt
Posts: 4,904
That was my first reaction, too, when the merger was announced a while back. But it's the strict award-redemption rules of AA that -- if adopted -- really give me that sinking feeling.
Last edited by tommyleo; Jul 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Jul 24, 2013, 4:40 pm
#983
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Delta is a possibility - originate in PHL with a change of gage in JFK. UA is a possibility although not as likely. The LHR slot was a divestiture required for approval of the AA/BA JV which US received from AA (MIA-LHR). It makes sense that the slot received from AA be given up.
What I find amusing is that US is fighting so hard to keep all the DCA slots but willingly gives up a LHR slot.
Jim
What I find amusing is that US is fighting so hard to keep all the DCA slots but willingly gives up a LHR slot.
Jim
Jul 24, 2013, 4:52 pm
#984
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SFO/OAK ex DCA ex ALB
Posts: 625
Quality over quantity is a fine concept, but much less fine when you're looking to redeem miles for travel during a specific time window and suddenly have half as many carriers in play.
Jul 24, 2013, 4:52 pm
#985
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,810
Why are you amused? DCA is a gold mine - government fares, attorneys, contractors, consultants.
Jul 24, 2013, 4:58 pm
#986
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ZRH/SFO
Programs: A3*G - AZ CFP- HH DIA
Posts: 3,666
Jul 24, 2013, 5:17 pm
#987
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OKC
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, Marriott Rewards Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond, TK M&S Elite
Posts: 290
My sinking feeling is that I have an award RTW trip in F/C on US, UA, TK, SG, and OZ booked for November 5 through November 16. Am I screwed??
Jul 24, 2013, 5:25 pm
#988
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/a...rtnerChart.jsp
Jul 24, 2013, 5:45 pm
#989
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OKC
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, Marriott Rewards Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond, TK M&S Elite
Posts: 290
There are also another eleven airlines outside of oneworld where one can redeem AA miles. Really, the sky is not falling.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/a...rtnerChart.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/a...rtnerChart.jsp
Jul 24, 2013, 5:53 pm
#990
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,054
