Is Egypt considered Africa or Middle East in the Award chart?
Jun 8, 2009, 11:21 am
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Is Egypt considered Africa or Middle East in the Award chart?
Does anyone know? This obviously would make a big difference to miles needed.
Thanks!
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Jun 8, 2009, 11:45 am
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I believe it's considered Africa....
It's not that big of a difference in miles required...
From North America - (Coach/Biz/First)
Mid East 80/120/180
Africa 70/110/150
And, in your favor too. I find it interesting that it takes fewer miles to go to Capetown or Johannesburg than it would to Dubai.
It's not that big of a difference in miles required...
From North America - (Coach/Biz/First)
Mid East 80/120/180
Africa 70/110/150
And, in your favor too. I find it interesting that it takes fewer miles to go to Capetown or Johannesburg than it would to Dubai.
Jun 8, 2009, 11:49 am
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I believe it's considered Africa....
It's not that big of a difference in miles required...
From North America - (Coach/Biz/First)
Mid East 80/120/180
Africa 70/110/150
And, in your favor too. I find it interesting that it takes fewer miles to go to Capetown or Johannesburg than it would to Dubai.
It's not that big of a difference in miles required...
From North America - (Coach/Biz/First)
Mid East 80/120/180
Africa 70/110/150
And, in your favor too. I find it interesting that it takes fewer miles to go to Capetown or Johannesburg than it would to Dubai.
However, it is a big difference if you are wanting to do something along the lines of CAI-DXB on an award.
Bad news, but good to know.
Jun 8, 2009, 11:55 am
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According to delta.com, Egypt is considered to be in the Middle East:
https://www.delta.com/components/pop...iddle_east.jsp
https://www.delta.com/components/pop...iddle_east.jsp
Jun 8, 2009, 11:58 am
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I suppose, geographically speaking, it is both. It is on the continent of Africa, but in the region of the Middle East. However, at the end of the day what matters is how it is programmed into the USAir computers. It would be nice if they could be a bit clearer about such things!
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Jun 9, 2009, 9:44 pm
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I did an award in Dec 08 to Egypt and it came up as Middle East.
Jun 10, 2009, 11:12 pm
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Jun 10, 2009, 11:58 pm
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As for avoiding Egyptair. Surely they couldn't possibly be worse than US? I'll gladly trade some beaten up planes and crappy airports for most of the mean surly US employees.
Jun 11, 2009, 12:22 am
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Actually, on long-haul flights operated by A340 or B777 aircraft, believe me, Egyptair is terrible and significantly worse than US Airways. I would even dare to say that ANY Envoy Class seat is more comfortable than the F seats Egyptair offers on those planes. Quite filthy.
Aug 17, 2011, 10:26 pm
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Egypt - ME/Africa?
Sorry to bump, but didn't want to start a new thread on the exact same question.
Just wondering if there have been any more recent (and perhaps consistent) experiences?
Just wondering if there have been any more recent (and perhaps consistent) experiences?
Aug 19, 2011, 6:54 am
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ME.
And, excellent advice on avoiding Egypt Air. OMG
And, excellent advice on avoiding Egypt Air. OMG
Oct 25, 2011, 1:51 pm
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Ugh. Spent an hour+ on the phone trying to get from CAI to FRA via KWI/BAH, but the agent I spoke with (and her supervisor) insisted on CAI being Africa and thus incurring higher mileage than the ME-Europe *partner award I was going to book (100,000 vs 80,000 in F). She even went as far as to name a list of countries that were considered ME, which did not include Egypt - though I did not ask how she came up with that list.
Also, the rate desk wouldn't allow the routing even for the Africa mileage.
Any chance of lucking out with another agent? Worst case I can find my own way from CAI to the Gulf region, but obviously I'd like to include it in my award itinerary.
Also, the rate desk wouldn't allow the routing even for the Africa mileage.
Any chance of lucking out with another agent? Worst case I can find my own way from CAI to the Gulf region, but obviously I'd like to include it in my award itinerary.
Oct 25, 2011, 4:15 pm
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Egypt is geographically in Africa. I wouldn't consider it middle east, even if Cairo (clearly west of the Suez) is politically considered a part of that. One could make an argument that SSH or the Sinai as a whole is in the middle east as it's the only part of Egypt that belongs to Asia but I doubt that would work either.
Also, consider this: Where do you determine what part of Egypt is middle east and what is Africa? If CAI is middle east, is ASW Africa? Because that would turn a CAI-ASW 433 mile route into a 70K economy round trip instead of a 35K award.
Also, consider this: Where do you determine what part of Egypt is middle east and what is Africa? If CAI is middle east, is ASW Africa? Because that would turn a CAI-ASW 433 mile route into a 70K economy round trip instead of a 35K award.