View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
Voters: 298. You may not vote on this poll
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
#751
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North of DFW
Programs: AA PLT, HH Gold, TSA Disparager Gold, going for Platnium
Posts: 1,535
I wonder how the Million mile program will work out with the merger. will balances from US add to the count to MM or will it be the current rules and the just treat them like RDM and not count towards MM status.
#752
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: New York
Programs: UA, AA, Hyatt, SPG
Posts: 86
This has been a disaster for the business traveler. With the US Airways c-suite-team taking over the responsibilities of pricing, marketing, operations, service, and product that means that this is a US Airways acquisition.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
#754
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: DFW or Somewhere Else
Programs: UA Plt /Delta DM/ Marriott Platinum Prem./Hilton Diamond / Hyatt Globalist /Hertz PS / National EE
Posts: 1,107
This has been a disaster for the business traveler. With the US Airways c-suite-team taking over the responsibilities of pricing, marketing, operations, service, and product that means that this is a US Airways acquisition.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
#755
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: AA
Posts: 58
Oh boy... Let's hope Agony Air does not ruin the good times over @ AA..
#756
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYR
Programs: US/AA-Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, AVIS-Presidents Club, National-Executive Elite
Posts: 2,755
What part of any of the announcements led you to believe that this wasnt a US Acquisition...
Physically where the headquarters is located has no bearing on who is in charge. After all, US is - legally and financially - acquiring AA.
Physically where the headquarters is located has no bearing on who is in charge. After all, US is - legally and financially - acquiring AA.
#757
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
UA proved that. CO is running it despite still being a Chicago airline.
#758
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Globalist, M life Gold, IHG Spire
Posts: 918
This has been a disaster for the business traveler. With the US Airways c-suite-team taking over the responsibilities of pricing, marketing, operations, service, and product that means that this is a US Airways acquisition.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
If you had asked me 3 years ago what my two least favorite airlines were I would have said US Airways and Continental. Flash forward and the only remaining airlines are US Airways, Continental, and Delta (who has since completely destroyed their FF program).
Delta's empty husk of a FF program is of no use to me which means my two most hated airlines are my only two options. It's really a shame how this played out for the business traveler.
Of course, no one knows. A CO/NWA may have ended up destroying customer service just as badly as DL/NWA did. (Hard to believe, but maybe)
Still, I'm not nearly as gloomy as some of you. Considering what bad shape AA was in, what better outcome were you hoping for? Put another way: think of how bad the AWA balance sheet was when Doug Parker arrived: one small step ahead of the grim reaper. I'm more willing to give Parker a shot at turning around AA than anyone else in the current crop of CEOs.
#759
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: New York
Programs: UA, AA, Hyatt, SPG
Posts: 86
And if the govt. had kept out of it, and didn't try to pick winners and losers, we would've had a CO/NWA merger years ago. 2 airlines that maintained some semblance of customer service.
Of course, no one knows. A CO/NWA may have ended up destroying customer service just as badly as DL/NWA did. (Hard to believe, but maybe)
Still, I'm not nearly as gloomy as some of you. Considering what bad shape AA was in, what better outcome were you hoping for? Put another way: think of how bad the AWA balance sheet was when Doug Parker arrived: one small step ahead of the grim reaper. I'm more willing to give Parker a shot at turning around AA than anyone else in the current crop of CEOs.
Of course, no one knows. A CO/NWA may have ended up destroying customer service just as badly as DL/NWA did. (Hard to believe, but maybe)
Still, I'm not nearly as gloomy as some of you. Considering what bad shape AA was in, what better outcome were you hoping for? Put another way: think of how bad the AWA balance sheet was when Doug Parker arrived: one small step ahead of the grim reaper. I'm more willing to give Parker a shot at turning around AA than anyone else in the current crop of CEOs.
#760
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP,2MM, DL Gold,Starwood PLT
Posts: 3,876
Yes the US team will be running the new american but it's just legally and financially UNTRUE it was an acquisition. Far from the case. Parker played the game better no doubt. But lack of understanding to call it in any form an acquisition. AA creditors get over 70% of the stock in the new entity.
#761
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 3,955
Maybe this is the perspective of a bottom tier elite who's happy to have anything (me), but what are you really giving up here? US has 4 tiers with solid benefits. The only thing I like better on the AA side is using certs/SWUs instead of automatic upgrades, just so you can prioritize and have a better shot.
If there's anything I'll miss, it's the US *A award chart, but life will go on.
#762
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,486
As an AA elite I certainly haven't been excited about the upcoming merger... but I doubt you'll find many AA elites who, while agreeing that elite benefits and the FF program on AA have been outstanding, won't acknowledge that over the past decade, AA's management basically drove the airline into the ground and really didn't seem to have any plan to turn it around other than their ridiculous strategy of 5 cornerstones and leaving a good deal of international flying to their partners.
#763
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Santa Monica and Siena
Programs: 10 MM + 2013, AA EXP,Lifetime AC ,Crown Room, Red Carpet,USAIR CLUB ,Hertz Plat, Hilton Dia, GS +++
Posts: 455
What Areas of AA would you like to see filter to
US Air. AA does have some programs, customer service practices that are not only worth preserving - but could be welcome additions to US Air flyers.
What are these?
I would have started a new thread -
What are these?
I would have started a new thread -
#764
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DCA ZWU
Programs: AGR WOH
Posts: 1,785
When Northwest and Delta merged, the surviving card was AmEx, not US Bank. WorldPerks cardholders kept their US Bank accounts but were moved to a generic rewards card.
Last year, in a move that may or may not have been related to hedging its bets about losing the US Airways affinity business, Barclays introduced a generic travel awards card called Arrival. I would guess that US cardholders will be switched over to Arrival.
Last year, in a move that may or may not have been related to hedging its bets about losing the US Airways affinity business, Barclays introduced a generic travel awards card called Arrival. I would guess that US cardholders will be switched over to Arrival.
#765
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
As an AA elite I certainly haven't been excited about the upcoming merger... but I doubt you'll find many AA elites who, while agreeing that elite benefits and the FF program on AA have been outstanding, won't acknowledge that over the past decade, AA's management basically drove the airline into the ground and really didn't seem to have any plan to turn it around other than their ridiculous strategy of 5 cornerstones and leaving a good deal of international flying to their partners.