View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Nov 12, 2013, 2:24 pm
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Aug 8, 2013, 6:46 am
#1201
Join Date: May 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PLT, Marriott LTP
Posts: 493
Found this link which says they will join OW by 2014. This may have been posted here before so I apologize if it's a duplicate-
[URL="http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/07/us-airways-to-leave-star-alliance-join-oneworld-by-start-of-2014/"]
Doesn't say when exactly but it seems like Jan 1 would be a good clean start date. Maybe December flights would be *A. Seems I can be a bit more optimistic that on a mid October flight on UA, US would still be in *A as the other thought process is a Nov 1 start date.
Missing *A already.....
[URL="http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/07/us-airways-to-leave-star-alliance-join-oneworld-by-start-of-2014/"]
Doesn't say when exactly but it seems like Jan 1 would be a good clean start date. Maybe December flights would be *A. Seems I can be a bit more optimistic that on a mid October flight on UA, US would still be in *A as the other thought process is a Nov 1 start date.
Missing *A already.....
Aug 8, 2013, 7:07 am
#1202
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 3,955
Found this link which says they will join OW by 2014. This may have been posted here before so I apologize if it's a duplicate-
[URL="http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/07/us-airways-to-leave-star-alliance-join-oneworld-by-start-of-2014/"]
Doesn't say when exactly but it seems like Jan 1 would be a good clean start date. Maybe December flights would be *A. Seems I can be a bit more optimistic that on a mid October flight on UA, US would still be in *A as the other thought process is a Nov 1 start date.
Missing *A already.....
[URL="http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/07/us-airways-to-leave-star-alliance-join-oneworld-by-start-of-2014/"]
Doesn't say when exactly but it seems like Jan 1 would be a good clean start date. Maybe December flights would be *A. Seems I can be a bit more optimistic that on a mid October flight on UA, US would still be in *A as the other thought process is a Nov 1 start date.
Missing *A already.....
Aug 8, 2013, 8:06 am
#1203
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott LTG, HHonors Diamond, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 3,581
I can't imagine any IT department of any Fortune 500 "screwing up" such a simple task. You take a duplicate sample of a representative database from each company, export the data to a dummy "new" database and see if it works with the export/import algorithm. Not rocket science. You don't use the algorithm until it has been thoroughly tested. I'd be surprised if the algorithm doesn't already exist. Someone has to be working on this!
Aug 8, 2013, 8:35 am
#1204
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Determining whether merging res systems (and affiliated parts like FF systems) is technically hard or easy is far above my pay grade. I've just noted that two mergers attempted it where Shares was one of the pre-merger systems as well as the surviving system and neither went well.
Whether AA has people experienced in Shares that could help US' IT department with the change-over or not, I have no idea. But AA has been Sabre since it proposed a jointly-owned system for the industry which was rejected by the "big boys" in the industry at that time so they did it on their own.
Jim
Whether AA has people experienced in Shares that could help US' IT department with the change-over or not, I have no idea. But AA has been Sabre since it proposed a jointly-owned system for the industry which was rejected by the "big boys" in the industry at that time so they did it on their own.
Jim
Aug 8, 2013, 10:02 am
#1205
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP (One World Emerald), Hilton Gld, Marriot Slvr
Posts: 252
Aug 8, 2013, 10:11 am
#1206
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
Programs: AA EXP, DL UA AS
Posts: 207
My apologies if this has been covered somewhere -- I searched the thread but didn't find anything much -- but any idea if we'll be able to credit Alaska flights to US DM at any point before the US name/FF program cease to exist (or even the status of Alaska's partnership with AA longterm given the merger)?
Aug 8, 2013, 10:14 am
#1207
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Trenton, NJ (PHL, EWR)
Programs: A3 Gold, BA Bronze
Posts: 1,633
It was actually the other way around for me - I took the cheaper of US or UA but still got to keep my preferred qualification miles (helps that I am open to flying out of EWR or PHL....). Now, with the single domestic airline in OneWorld, it is the USdbaAA way or the highway
Aug 8, 2013, 6:39 pm
#1208
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP (One World Emerald), Hilton Gld, Marriot Slvr
Posts: 252
I'm in the same boat, equidistant from EWR and PHL. I'm really not sure if I'm going to stay or not, but the new UA spend requirement of $5,000 on UA ticketed flights, if I wanted to stay in *A, will probably force me to stay with US/AA. I spend probably around $3,000-$4,000 per year (all personal) across * Alliance, but I'm not adding an extra $1,000-$2,000 or more to my costs just to stay * Gold.
Aug 9, 2013, 2:29 am
#1209
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 32
Hi, not sure if I can ask questions like this.
1) Does anyone know when is the last day I can still use US mileage to redeem Star Alliance?
2) Right now, looks like the mileage requirements of award tickets for Star Alliance with US mileage are lower than for OneWorld with AA mileage. (i.e. USA to north Asia business class round trip US 90,000 miles vs AA 100,000 miles) Can I say if I have US mileage now, then it will depreciate once it changes to AA mileage?
Thanks
1) Does anyone know when is the last day I can still use US mileage to redeem Star Alliance?
2) Right now, looks like the mileage requirements of award tickets for Star Alliance with US mileage are lower than for OneWorld with AA mileage. (i.e. USA to north Asia business class round trip US 90,000 miles vs AA 100,000 miles) Can I say if I have US mileage now, then it will depreciate once it changes to AA mileage?
Thanks
Aug 9, 2013, 3:39 am
#1210
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,993
Unconfirmed reports are the last day is as Early as being October 31.
Aug 9, 2013, 9:39 am
#1211
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA former 1K (1.9MM and gone), Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 1,111
I can't imagine any IT department of any Fortune 500 "screwing up" such a simple task. You take a duplicate sample of a representative database from each company, export the data to a dummy "new" database and see if it works with the export/import algorithm. Not rocket science. You don't use the algorithm until it has been thoroughly tested. I'd be surprised if the algorithm doesn't already exist. Someone has to be working on this!
Aug 9, 2013, 1:15 pm
#1212
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 3,955
The rumors are quite excellent, as my wife wants us to head to PHX or SAN (whichever is cheaper) to see my inlaws sometime in October. I guess my best bet is to book BOS-PHX on US metal if I want to make sure we have it creditable to US.
Aug 9, 2013, 2:44 pm
#1213
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,264
I'm in the same boat, equidistant from EWR and PHL. I'm really not sure if I'm going to stay or not, but the new UA spend requirement of $5,000 on UA ticketed flights, if I wanted to stay in *A, will probably force me to stay with US/AA. I spend probably around $3,000-$4,000 per year (all personal) across * Alliance, but I'm not adding an extra $1,000-$2,000 or more to my costs just to stay * Gold.
Determining whether merging res systems (and affiliated parts like FF systems) is technically hard or easy is far above my pay grade. I've just noted that two mergers attempted it where Shares was one of the pre-merger systems as well as the surviving system and neither went well.
Whether AA has people experienced in Shares that could help US' IT department with the change-over or not, I have no idea. But AA has been Sabre since it proposed a jointly-owned system for the industry which was rejected by the "big boys" in the industry at that time so they did it on their own.
Whether AA has people experienced in Shares that could help US' IT department with the change-over or not, I have no idea. But AA has been Sabre since it proposed a jointly-owned system for the industry which was rejected by the "big boys" in the industry at that time so they did it on their own.
How do you upgrade a US elite on a AA flight when they won't have any e500s?
Aug 9, 2013, 2:49 pm
#1214
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
Also: there really isn't a way to hedge bets once US leaves *A, unless you can manufacture enough travel to keep you elite in TWO alliances. Even going for something like A3 *G is still 19,000 miles that will count for diddly-squat on US.
Aug 9, 2013, 8:14 pm
#1215
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Jim