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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:20 pm
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DCA-PHX arrival delay - what gives?

I'm a bit concerned because I'm connecting DCA-PHX-SFO tomorrow night, and tonight's DCA-PHX is showing an arrival delay of about an hour, despite having left on time. What could have caused this delay? Doesn't make sense to me, because PHX is typically very stable and (almost) always on time

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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:29 pm
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Uhhhhhhhhh, just a little longer of a flight plan? 4 hr 21 min last night and 4 hr 33 mins tonight. In addition it took off 15 mins later than last night?
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by MrAndy1369
I'm a bit concerned because I'm connecting DCA-PHX-SFO tomorrow night, and tonight's DCA-PHX is showing an arrival delay of about an hour, despite having left on time. What could have caused this delay? Doesn't make sense to me, because PHX is typically very stable and (almost) always on time

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let me get this straight

you are worried about a flight tonight that has a 1 hour delay for a flight tomorrow LOL?

and you must be near DCA

but that major T-Storm was something that you never gave a thought too LOL
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:45 pm
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As this seems to be US operations, I'll move to the appropriate forum.

As noted, was there any weather between DCA and PHX? And PHX isn't immune to weather delays, monsoon storms can definitely roll in at this time of year.

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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:47 pm
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I'm worried because my connection in PHX tomorrow night will only be an hour, so if my flight is delayed an hour, I'll miss the last connection of the day to SFO.

Also, the arrival time now shows as estimated 7:43pm vs. 6:53pm. The SFO flight would be at 8:10pm. Wouldn't that be a case of concern for anyone?
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by MrAndy1369
I'm worried because my connection in PHX tomorrow night will only be an hour, so if my flight is delayed an hour, I'll miss the last connection of the day to SFO.
If it is critical that you be at SFO by the end of the day tomorrow, I'd recommend checking for alternatives. If you have AA status, you can do a, "move up," to an earlier flight for free (otherwise I think it is $75). MoveUp can only be done at the airport, however.

Along with other DCA-PHX-SFO options you might want to check for flights through PHL or CLT.
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by TWAL10114Ever
Uhhhhhhhhh, just a little longer of a flight plan? 4 hr 21 min last night and 4 hr 33 mins tonight. In addition it took off 15 mins later than last night?
It shows as departed at an actual time of 5:14pm vs. the scheduled 5:15pm so how can it be departed late?

The flight number is 583 (US Airways operated).

Originally Posted by aztimm
If it is critical that you be at SFO by the end of the day tomorrow, I'd recommend checking for alternatives. If you have AA status, you can do a, "move up," to an earlier flight for free (otherwise I think it is $75). MoveUp can only be done at the airport, however.

Along with other DCA-PHX-SFO options you might want to check for flights through PHL or CLT.
I have work tomorrow so 5:15pm is the earliest I can do.
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:56 pm
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US 583 DCA-PHX on 8/20 departed the gate ontime and seems like it hit the penalty box and roamed the taxiways for 45 minutes before taking off. The flight is showing a 42 m arrival delay.

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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/20/15
Flying US flight 583

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          DCA              Scheduled: 08/20/15 5:15 PM                PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 6:53 PM
US 583   En Route         Term: C          Estimated: 08/20/15 5:14 PM   NA / NA      Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 7:35 PM
                          Gate: 42         Actual: 08/20/15 5:14 PM                   Gate: A20        Actual: 


Comments:
"0583/20AUG
P DCA/OUT    514P E00:01  *N908AW*
P DCA/OFF    559P  *N908AW*
P PHX/ETA    735P L00:42  *N908AW*
    
SKED  DCA  ORIG    515P              GTD   42 SHIP 908
      PHX   653P  TERM      GTA  A20"
Tomorrow is another day. The delay today does not mean there is a delay tomorrow. Hold of worrying until the flight tomorrow picks up a delay.
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Originally Posted by MrAndy1369
It shows as departed at an actual time of 5:14pm vs. the scheduled 5:15pm so how can it be departed late?

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5:14 is the time it left the gate which is not the same as the time it took off.

If you go to flightaware you'd see the flight took off at 5:59. You'd also see that DCA has been "experiencing departure delays of 31 minutes to 45 minutes averaging 2 hours (and increasing) due to thunderstorms."
- Source: flightaware.com

Chill out. What's happening with the flight today has no bearing on what will take place tomorrow.

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Old Aug 20, 2015, 6:59 pm
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Thanks for sharing! Do you think that if this were to happen tomorrow, I'd still be able to make my connection to SFO?

Originally Posted by HNL
US 583 DCA-PHX on 8/20 departed the gate ontime and seems like it hit the penalty box and roamed the taxiways for 45 minutes before taking off. The flight is showing a 42 m arrival delay.

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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/20/15
Flying US flight 583

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          DCA              Scheduled: 08/20/15 5:15 PM                PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 6:53 PM
US 583   En Route         Term: C          Estimated: 08/20/15 5:14 PM   NA / NA      Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 7:35 PM
                          Gate: 42         Actual: 08/20/15 5:14 PM                   Gate: A20        Actual: 


Comments:
"0583/20AUG
P DCA/OUT    514P E00:01  *N908AW*
P DCA/OFF    559P  *N908AW*
P PHX/ETA    735P L00:42  *N908AW*
    
SKED  DCA  ORIG    515P              GTD   42 SHIP 908
      PHX   653P  TERM      GTA  A20"
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 7:03 pm
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But look US436 PHX-SFO is delayed 2+ hours tonight, so you would have ad plenty of time to make the connection.

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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/20/15
Flying US flight 436

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          CLT              Scheduled: 08/20/15 5:50 PM                PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 7:09 PM
US 436   En Route         Term:            Estimated: 08/20/15 5:48 PM   64% / 21m    Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 7:14 PM
                          Gate: B10        Actual: 08/20/15 5:48 PM                   Gate: A13        Actual: 

                          PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 8:15 PM                SFO              Scheduled: 08/20/15 10:20 PM
US 436   Scheduled        Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 10:40 PM  77% / 27m    Term: 1          Estimated: 08/21/15 12:45 AM
                          Gate: A24        Actual:                                    Gate: 45B        Actual: 


Comments:
"0436/20AUG
P CLT/OUT    548P E00:02  *N156UW*
P CLT/OFF    610P  *N156UW*
P PHX/ETA    707P E00:02  *N156UW*
P PHX/ETD   1040P L02:25 LAE-FLIGHT DELAYED DUE TO A PRIOR AIRCR
      AFT DELAY
P SFO/PRE   1245A L02:25  *N155UW*
    
SKED  CLT  ORIG    550P              GTD  B10 SHIP 156
      PHX   709P   815P     GTA  A13 GTD  A24 SHIP 155
      SFO  1020P  TERM      GTA  45B"
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 7:30 pm
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Wow, thanks. Definitely not good news. Let's hope for a better outcome tomorrow!

Originally Posted by HNL
But look US436 PHX-SFO is delayed 2+ hours tonight, so you would have ad plenty of time to make the connection.

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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/20/15
Flying US flight 436

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          CLT              Scheduled: 08/20/15 5:50 PM                PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 7:09 PM
US 436   En Route         Term:            Estimated: 08/20/15 5:48 PM   64% / 21m    Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 7:14 PM
                          Gate: B10        Actual: 08/20/15 5:48 PM                   Gate: A13        Actual: 

                          PHX              Scheduled: 08/20/15 8:15 PM                SFO              Scheduled: 08/20/15 10:20 PM
US 436   Scheduled        Term: 4          Estimated: 08/20/15 10:40 PM  77% / 27m    Term: 1          Estimated: 08/21/15 12:45 AM
                          Gate: A24        Actual:                                    Gate: 45B        Actual: 


Comments:
"0436/20AUG
P CLT/OUT    548P E00:02  *N156UW*
P CLT/OFF    610P  *N156UW*
P PHX/ETA    707P E00:02  *N156UW*
P PHX/ETD   1040P L02:25 LAE-FLIGHT DELAYED DUE TO A PRIOR AIRCR
      AFT DELAY
P SFO/PRE   1245A L02:25  *N155UW*
    
SKED  CLT  ORIG    550P              GTD  B10 SHIP 156
      PHX   709P   815P     GTA  A13 GTD  A24 SHIP 155
      SFO  1020P  TERM      GTA  45B"
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 8:05 pm
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DCA-PHX arrival delay - what gives?

Weather is supposed to be better tomorrow. DCA had a ground stop earlier which probably caused the delay.
Safe travels.
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 8:07 pm
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Pretty good line of storms to the west of the DC area today - likely caused departure delays for west bound flights.
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Old Aug 20, 2015, 8:08 pm
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Flight 583 is always late. It is a large plane to board from DCA. Generally gets caught in weather, flow control going west and taxis around the airport like a lost drunk looking for a bathroom. There used to be a 1020 to SFO after the 815 flight, but it looks as if it has gone away. Plus in PHX, if you land at A1 and have to go to B it can be a 30 minute connect or longer getting off from a back row of a 75 or 321. It is is mission critical to be in SFO i would suggest taking the 535 to LAX and catching the connect to SFO on AA. I take this flight 2X a month and would bet that it is delayed vs on time. Check flightaware.com for more info. Worst case, have AA protect you on the 6am to SFO on united the following morning. I've had a lot of success in getting them to transfer me.
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