View Poll Results: How do you feel about the new RECARO seats UA is installing?
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Jun 3, 2017, 1:01 pm
Update on our Airbus Reconfigurations (Seats, Entertainment, Channel 9, etc.)
Sep 8, 2013, 5:11 pm
#661
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UA botched these seats
About to fly ORD-LGA in them. Thank god a short flight - these are overly firm, and as noted up thread, the seat cushion is just way too short. I can foresee people getting neck strain too as the back is pushed too far out compared to the headrest.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
Last edited by UA-NYC; Sep 8, 2013 at 8:38 pm Reason: Flight post-mortem
Sep 8, 2013, 8:43 pm
#662
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I caught a new fitted out A320 from ORD-YVR last week. It was a 4 hour flight, and I was in 20D (exit aisle).
My overall impression is that the seats are just a small step down from the old Airbus seats - particularly in their well-worn state.
It's part of the same overall pattern at United, things just get a little bit worse each year - upgrade %, F/J food, channel 9 availability, Mileage Plus rules, 1K perks, etc....
My overall impression is that the seats are just a small step down from the old Airbus seats - particularly in their well-worn state.
It's part of the same overall pattern at United, things just get a little bit worse each year - upgrade %, F/J food, channel 9 availability, Mileage Plus rules, 1K perks, etc....
Sep 8, 2013, 9:17 pm
#663
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About to fly ORD-LGA in them. Thank god a short flight - these are overly firm, and as noted up thread, the seat cushion is just way too short. I can foresee people getting neck strain too as the back is pushed too far out compared to the headrest.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
Sep 8, 2013, 9:27 pm
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About to fly ORD-LGA in them. Thank god a short flight - these are overly firm, and as noted up thread, the seat cushion is just way too short. I can foresee people getting neck strain too as the back is pushed too far out compared to the headrest.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
At SFO though we are loosing most of the Airbus and getting the CO 7-narrow-7s with those great 17" hard as a rock Koito seats. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. Oh well, next year I will avoid UA even more...
Sep 8, 2013, 9:39 pm
#665
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About to fly ORD-LGA in them. Thank god a short flight - these are overly firm, and as noted up thread, the seat cushion is just way too short. I can foresee people getting neck strain too as the back is pushed too far out compared to the headrest.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
RIP the nice Airbus Y seat comfort.
EDIT: after spending a body numbing 100 minutes in those seats, I can safely say it's the single worst Y seat I've ever sat in. Everything ergonomically about it is wrong - an hour after landing, my back is still sore. It's tough to believe they were ever tested on actual human beings...maybe they weren't, could have been just crash test dummies.
I asked the FA, "so you're going to have to do manual announcements on these planes going forward?" He said yes, and all the FAs hated it - and couldn't believe UA was ripping out all the free entertainment too. Wifi was broken as well.
A major thumbs down all around.
Sep 9, 2013, 4:47 am
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Hey, maybe they'll elect for a higher level of the comfort package for all we know. Have you sat in them for any extended period of time? They stink.
Another fun note - the headrest looks nice and wide, right? It's an illusion - the "hard" part on the inside stops 3" short of the end of each "wing". They just flop over.
I would think, in most professions, if you had an aspect of your job that was automated (to your benefit), and now you have to regress to ~20 years prior where it was manual, you might be annoyed too.
Another fun note - the headrest looks nice and wide, right? It's an illusion - the "hard" part on the inside stops 3" short of the end of each "wing". They just flop over.
Somehow I find that "All FAs hated it" part hard to believe. If he's speaking of the FAs that were actually on the flight that's one thing, If he's speaking for all FAs then that's something totally different. Example sometimes I work an out of base trip that sometimes has the 739ER and no IFE no nothing and I have to do a manual demo and I don't mind at all.
Sep 9, 2013, 7:07 am
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I always thought there were FAs who enjoyed making the announcement and probably thought it demeaning to be replaced by a lame video. Many people don't like having their job duties dumbed-down. So my suspicion is there's a mix of opinions on this subject.
Sep 9, 2013, 7:47 am
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Sep 9, 2013, 7:50 am
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I was also under the impression that AA is installing these seats on their new A319s, but if you actually take a look at pictures of the new cabin, they don't actually LOOK as uncomfortable (seem to have a bit more padding). But at the same time, I haven't heard any feedback either way yet on the new AA seats.
http://boardingarea.com/aadvantagege...airlines-a319/
http://boardingarea.com/aadvantagege...airlines-a319/
Sep 9, 2013, 8:12 am
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I was also under the impression that AA is installing these seats on their new A319s, but if you actually take a look at pictures of the new cabin, they don't actually LOOK as uncomfortable (seem to have a bit more padding). But at the same time, I haven't heard any feedback either way yet on the new AA seats.
http://boardingarea.com/aadvantagege...airlines-a319/
http://boardingarea.com/aadvantagege...airlines-a319/
Sep 9, 2013, 8:41 am
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Just caught the seats ORD to DC, absolutely brutal
Sep 9, 2013, 8:49 am
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Row 7 used to be my favorite for my red-eye transcon but the LAX-ORD red-eye on row 7 with one of these new seats was killing me! What is wrong with the new UA and what was wrong with the old seats!?
Sep 9, 2013, 8:59 am
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Nothing was "wrong" with the old seats. UA wanted to add seats to the 319 and 320, so the only thing they could do is add thinner, less comfortable seats.