Status of United's 787 Fleet
Jun 23, 2013, 12:19 pm
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Warm fuzzy, chill:
...The feelings one gets from the first and last paragraphs of this AP/Seattle Times article:
http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...mid=obindomain
http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...mid=obindomain
Last edited by Firewind; Jun 23, 2013 at 12:25 pm Reason: AP
Jun 23, 2013, 2:42 pm
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Possibly a maintenance shop to do WiFi install? QR was pushing to get that done quickly.
Jun 23, 2013, 2:46 pm
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Whats amazing is that UA is buying more and more of them. They are putting everything on this one aircraft. I'm happy they also have the 350's coming. As of now any other aircraft is more reliable than the 787. UA and NH have alot into this. I won't suprises to see ANA also purchase 350's.
And if you think that the A350 won't have its own teething issues, you will be very mistaken... These kinds of jumps in technology can't be made without issues
Jun 23, 2013, 3:51 pm
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If someone has some spare time, it might be interesting to compile the track record of the 787 flights over the past couple weeks. I am sure UA won't be very cooperative in providing accurate data to the press...
Jun 23, 2013, 4:38 pm
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It's not surprising at all. Airlines around the world like ET, AI, LO are very pleased with the aircraft. Once these kinks get sorted out, I'm sure UA will be a big fan too. It's a revolutionary airplane in many respects.
And if you think that the A350 won't have its own teething issues, you will be very mistaken... These kinds of jumps in technology can't be made without issues
And if you think that the A350 won't have its own teething issues, you will be very mistaken... These kinds of jumps in technology can't be made without issues
Fact is that ANA and UA are having issues.
Jun 23, 2013, 4:46 pm
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What "data" do you think they're hiding? Much of the useful information is already public.
Jun 23, 2013, 5:40 pm
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Ethiopian has been getting even better dispatch reliability since the battery fix, but they only operate 4 aircraft (compared to UA's 6).
Jun 23, 2013, 7:19 pm
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Air India operates more 787s than UA, and yet it still hasn't had many issues since the battery fix. Dispatch reliability is in the mid-90s.
Ethiopian has been getting even better dispatch reliability since the battery fix, but they only operate 4 aircraft (compared to UA's 6).
Ethiopian has been getting even better dispatch reliability since the battery fix, but they only operate 4 aircraft (compared to UA's 6).
Jun 23, 2013, 7:38 pm
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Looks like the 787 (3903) that was diverted today is back inflight. IAH-IAH though, test flight?? Since I caught it inflight, I tried listing to IAH ATC and heard them say they'll be parking in a hanger (vs a gate).
UA6868
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N27903
I wonder whats going on with that plane
UA6868
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N27903
I wonder whats going on with that plane
Last edited by eng3; Jun 23, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Jun 23, 2013, 9:47 pm
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As for ET, I haven't been paying as close attention, but they put out a press release on Tuesday talking about how excited they were about dispatch reliability and fuel performance. I can't think of a motivation for them to lie - if they were having trouble, they'd want Boeing to fix it.
Jun 23, 2013, 10:43 pm
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Growing pains
Whats amazing is that UA is buying more and more of them. They are putting everything on this one aircraft. I'm happy they also have the 350's coming. As of now any other aircraft is more reliable than the 787. UA and NH have alot into this. I won't suprises to see ANA also purchase 350's.
Jun 23, 2013, 10:50 pm
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Flew 3906 on Thursday it's first day back at LAX from SEA. it came in three hours late. While waiting, I spoke to one of the pilots. He was a 777 pilot who thru seniority now moved to the 87 planes. I asked him about all of the delays and he explained that UA had cry similar problems when they were the launch customer for the 777. He went onto say that the computers that monitor the systems are the culprit for many of the delays. They are kicking out false positives which are resulting in extra checks to I sure that nothing is truly wrong. He said that once they iron out the software issues, things will "normalize". The flight on 3906 was perfect. Great plane. Ironically when we landed, the steering system malfunctioned and we had to be towed from the runway to the gate. That plane was heading to LHR unfortunately due to the steering problem, it wasn't going to be anytime soon that night. Personally, I'd definitely go out of my way to fly an87 as long as they are still doing break in routes.
Not saying it's a bad aircraft, but I'm booking away from it until these "software" issues are resolved.
You would think all airlines would have similar software issues that UA is said to be experiencing.
Jun 23, 2013, 10:52 pm
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Flew 3906 on Thursday it's first day back at LAX from SEA. it came in three hours late. While waiting, I spoke to one of the pilots. He was a 777 pilot who thru seniority now moved to the 87 planes. I asked him about all of the delays and he explained that UA had cry similar problems when they were the launch customer for the 777. He went onto say that the computers that monitor the systems are the culprit for many of the delays. They are kicking out false positives which are resulting in extra checks to I sure that nothing is truly wrong. He said that once they iron out the software issues, things will "normalize". The flight on 3906 was perfect. Great plane. Ironically when we landed, the steering system malfunctioned and we had to be towed from the runway to the gate. That plane was heading to LHR unfortunately due to the steering problem, it wasn't going to be anytime soon that night. Personally, I'd definitely go out of my way to fly an87 as long as they are still doing break in routes.
Jun 23, 2013, 10:55 pm
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And isn't the SW the same across all airlines? I may be daft in this area, but isn't that standard Boeing SW, not customized to UA?
Jun 23, 2013, 11:33 pm
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Yesterday's (Sunday) diversion was due to a brake indicator:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/23/travel...ted/?hpt=hp_t2
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/23/travel...ted/?hpt=hp_t2
A United Airlines 787 Dreamliner was diverted early Sunday due to a mechanical problem, the second such incident for the plane in a week.
United flight 94 was on its way to Denver when it was forced to fly back to the place from where it left: Houston, United Airlines said.
The cause: an issue with the brake indicator.
United flight 94 was on its way to Denver when it was forced to fly back to the place from where it left: Houston, United Airlines said.
The cause: an issue with the brake indicator.