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Old Dec 16, 12, 1:56 pm   #1
 
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Question Flight #145 IAD-HNL diverted twice in two days? Why?

Hi all. I noticed today that flight 145 from IAD-HNL is being diverted to IAH. It was up at FL320, dropped down to FL240, then FL200, and it just keeps getting lower. It's around 10000 feet now. Anyone know what's up with the flight?

I noticed that it was also diverted yesterday in similar fashion. What's going on? Is it the same plane?
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Old Dec 16, 12, 2:07 pm   #2
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Looking like a mechanical diversion:

0145/16DEC
P TPA/OUT 857A E00.03 ☨
P TPA/OFF 925A
P IAD/ON 1119A
P IAD/IN 1125A L00.09 ☨
P IAD/OUT 1254P L00.04 ☨
P IAD/OFF 111P
P IAH/ETA 426P AIRCRAFT SERVICING
P HNL/ETA 630P E00.05
F HNL/ETA 226P E04.09
D FCF/DVRT IAH ENRT IAD-HNL A/AWAITING FLT☨
D FCF/DVRT IAH ENRT IAD-HNL A/AWAITING FLT

SKED TPA ORIG 900A GTD A7 SHIP 3226
IAD 1116A 1250P GTA C14 GTD D7 SHIP 3064
HNL 635P TERM GTA 11
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Old Dec 16, 12, 2:27 pm   #3
 
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Any idea on what the problem might be? And was it the same issue yesterday?

I'm a little concerned because I'm flying HNL-EWR in a few days and I know that this equipment is part of a small sub-fleet so chances are decent that I'll be on one of these planes that's having problems.
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Old Dec 16, 12, 2:32 pm   #4
 
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Those unrefurbished Air Micronesia 767s appear to need some maintenance attention.

As a result, today's UA UA 104 from HNL-SFO and UA 73 back to HNL tonight are recently refurbished 767-400s with many more lie flat seats in the front cabin and a bigger E+ section. As a result, 73 is oversold and they are flogging $250 VDB compensation to go out the next day.

Mrs. Transportprof and I are in a good position for CPUs on 73 as a result, although two great seatsin row 12 disappeared with the equipment change.

We'll see what happens.
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Old Dec 16, 12, 3:05 pm   #5
 
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Must be something with the plane.

Both diverted flights have been operated by ship #065.
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Old Dec 16, 12, 3:22 pm   #6
 
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As a result, today's UA UA 104 from HNL-SFO and UA 73 back to HNL tonight are recently refurbished 767-400s with many more lie flat seats in the front cabin and a bigger E+ section. As a result, 73 is oversold and they are flogging $250 VDB compensation to go out the next day..
I can't imagine anyone giving up a day in Hawaii for $250. How cheap.
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Old Dec 16, 12, 4:09 pm   #7
 
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I can't imagine anyone giving up a day in Hawaii for $250. How cheap.
You are assuming that one has a fixed schedule. Very often a person may negotiate a no-cost change in return date as part of the VDB offer. A person based in HNL may also look at the offer as an opportunity to spend an additional day at WAS without cost. It is also the case, for many, that $250 is nothing to sneeze at -- for the starving student, for example, it might cover a ticket, which could otherwise not be pruchased, to go visit a friend.

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Looking like a mechanical diversion:

0145/16DEC
P TPA/OUT 857A E00.03 ☨
P TPA/OFF 925A
P IAD/ON 1119A
P IAD/IN 1125A L00.09 ☨
P IAD/OUT 1254P L00.04 ☨
P IAD/OFF 111P
P IAH/ETA 426P AIRCRAFT SERVICING
P HNL/ETA 630P E00.05
F HNL/ETA 226P E04.09
D FCF/DVRT IAH ENRT IAD-HNL A/AWAITING FLT☨
D FCF/DVRT IAH ENRT IAD-HNL A/AWAITING FLT
Something odd here. Take a look at the flight tracks. The diversion to IAH does not appear to be an action based on some sudden inflight problem; certainly not a problem which would prevent extended over land operation. Perhaps a problem which would prevent safe ocean crossing that only IAH is equiped to repair.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...750Z/KIAD/PHNL

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Old Dec 16, 12, 4:16 pm   #8
 
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I can't imagine anyone giving up a day in Hawaii for $250. How cheap.
Could be someone that lives in HNL and would enjoy an extra day in SFO. And it's not as if SFO is Siberia (or *ahem* Witchita.. )
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Could be someone that lives in HNL and would enjoy an extra day in SFO. And it's not as if SFO is Siberia (or *ahem* Witchita.. )
I can't imagine anyone giving up a day in Hawaii. (even residents!)

No, the observation is valid, though i will say that after months/years of living on the mainland, getting back to home to paradise is not something you want to delay by a day.

Though I guess the bay area isn't as bad as getting stuck in New Jersey for an extra day in December.
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I can't imagine anyone giving up a day in Hawaii for $250. How cheap.
I was paid $600 for an extra day in Hawaii. That's how it should be done.
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odd it would divert to IAH when ORD so close when initiatied change in course
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odd it would divert to IAH when ORD so close when initiatied change in course
Not really.

It's sCO metal. It's easier to do a swap where there are available aircraft.
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Old Dec 16, 12, 7:47 pm   #13
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odd it would divert to IAH when ORD so close when initiatied change in course
Since it's a CO bird, the tech ops people and parts may have been at IAH and not ORD.
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Since it's a CO bird, the tech ops people and parts may have been at IAH and not ORD.
...kind of like when we waited at LHR for parts for a 777...from Gatwick, seriously, not exactly a UA hub, or anything for that matter

one would think they have a basic 767 parts bin at ORD
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Since it's a CO bird, the tech ops people and parts may have been at IAH and not ORD.
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...kind of like when we waited at LHR for parts for a 777...from Gatwick, seriously, not exactly a UA hub, or anything for that matter

one would think they have a basic 767 parts bin at ORD
Just speculating.. The likelihood of a 764 at IAH is probably greater than at ORD.

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Not really.

It's sCO metal. It's easier to do a swap where there are available aircraft.
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