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Old Dec 14, 12, 8:11 am   #1
 
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UA really should rename their front cabins.
Domestic First certainly isn't, and domestic Biz is Economy++ ?
And why do some 2-class domestic planes have First, and some of Biz?

Here's my suggestions, following UA's economy naming scheme:
- rename domestic First to Business (i.e. non-lie-flat)
- rename BusinessFirst to Business Plus (must have lie-flat)
- use First only in a 3-class plane

Bonus: we can refer to non-lie-flat domestic Business as Business Minus
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Old Dec 14, 12, 8:23 am   #2
 
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It should be:

Economy
Economy Plus
Business (current Domestic First, Business, Business First)
First (current Global First)

It's how every airline in every other part of the world does it.
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Old Dec 14, 12, 10:44 am   #3
 
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I would recommend this
2-class domestic:
Economy
Economy+
Business

2-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie flat)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)

3-class domestic
Economy
Economy+
Business(both lie flat and non-lie flat)
First

3-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie falt)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)
First
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Old Dec 14, 12, 11:39 am   #4
 
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Economy

Economyplus

Economydoubleplus

Economyfirst
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Old Dec 14, 12, 12:08 pm   #5
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks View Post
It should be:

Economy
Economy Plus
Business (current Domestic First, Business, Business First)
First (current Global First)

It's how every airline in every other part of the world does it.
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I would recommend this
2-class domestic:
Economy
Economy+
Business

2-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie flat)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)

3-class domestic
Economy
Economy+
Business(both lie flat and non-lie flat)
First

3-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie falt)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)
First
Why do you need to make it so confusing?
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Old Dec 14, 12, 12:13 pm   #6
 
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Old Dec 14, 12, 12:23 pm   #7
 
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It's how every airline in every other part of the world does it.
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Old Dec 14, 12, 12:35 pm   #8
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Old Dec 14, 12, 12:37 pm   #9
 
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While these airlines use the word "First" for the domestic product they will continue to credit to certain FF programs at "FIRST" rates....

(I know I'm selfish.. but that is a huge bonus for some of us!!!)
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:24 pm   #10
 
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Originally Posted by ben237829624 View Post
I would recommend this
2-class domestic:
Economy
Economy+
Business

2-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie flat)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)

3-class domestic
Economy
Economy+
Business(both lie flat and non-lie flat)
First

3-class international
Economy
Economy+
Business(non-lie falt)
BusinessFirst(lie flat)
First
NZ actually has something similar, where 763 recliner business class is "Business" while 772/77W flat beds are "Business Premier"

Not really a fan of all that confusion, just name it the one thing.
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:28 pm   #11
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:28 pm   #12
 
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I don't think the front cabin on the 737/A320 should be called Business or First, it's so far away from the longhaul products. How about Big Front Seat?
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:29 pm   #13
 
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:38 pm   #14
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by belfordrocks View Post
It should be:

Economy
Economy Plus
Business (current Domestic First, Business, Business First)
First (current Global First)

It's how every airline in every other part of the world does it.
Well, not really as far as short-haul flights are concerned.
Most EU "business class" treatment is a. seats very similar to E+ in UA now vs E and b. and serving food better than what they serve at E (yeah I know, food at E; what a concept)
E+ is a lot like what someone would call "business" in a short haul flight. Would there be additional $ if they renamed it "business"? Probably? But if they do that, you know the next move is: going down the US path and call every window and isle E- seat, premium and ask and extra nickel and dime for it....
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Old Dec 14, 12, 5:41 pm   #15
 
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I don't think the front cabin on the 737/A320 should be called Business or First, it's so far away from the longhaul products. How about Big Front Seat?
One of the small carriers actually has trademarked that name and introduced it in service this year. Cannot remember who...
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