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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:00 pm   #1
 
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Has United always let you book > 4 hour domestic connections on award

Was looking at award seats to HNL. see flight options arriving SFO at 9am and departing SFO at 430pm. Was thinking about using singapore miles to try and get those flights but they told me no availability.

was wondering why and then realized that the connection is over 4 hours so maybe that's why SQ won't find it. Has UA always allowed this?
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:13 pm   #2
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Was looking at award seats to HNL. see flight options arriving SFO at 9am and departing SFO at 430pm. Was thinking about using singapore miles to try and get those flights but they told me no availability.

was wondering why and then realized that the connection is over 4 hours so maybe that's why SQ won't find it. Has UA always allowed this?
For UA mileage "domestic" award, >4 hour break is considered a stopover which in this case would require extra miles.

Exception to 4 hour rules -- no flight in the 4 hour period, so next available flight is OK.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:19 pm   #3
 
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For UA mileage "domestic" award, >4 hour break is considered a stopover which in this case would require extra miles.

Exception to 4 hour rules -- no flight in the 4 hour period, so next available flight is OK.
But there is a 930am and 1040am from SFO-HNL. So the 405pm is not the next flight. I don't believe that when they say available they mean award availability.

Flight from ORD gets in at 837am.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:30 pm   #4
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It is also possible that UA isn't releasing the award inventory to partners. Have you looked via Aeroplan or ANA to see if it is "out there" rather than just on UA's site?
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Old Dec 12, 12, 3:27 pm   #5
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I have often been offered domestic connections on award flights that have a far greater than 4 hour connection and where there are intervening flights.
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For UA mileage "domestic" award, >4 hour break is considered a stopover which in this case would require extra miles.

Exception to 4 hour rules -- no flight in the 4 hour period, so next available flight is OK.
That's definitely true if you're using UA miles, but he's trying to use SQ miles so he'd be following their stopover/connection rules so it may be different (I have no idea what SQ policies are)
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For UA mileage "domestic" award, >4 hour break is considered a stopover which in this case would require extra miles.
But you can stopover in your connection city on Hawaii awards.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 3:59 pm   #8
 
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But you can stopover in your connection city on Hawaii awards.
Can you do this on one way?
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was trying to do Amex to SQ and redeem but too messy. Just used UA miles instead.

But the question still holds:

Is there a four hour max connection on domestic awards?
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But the question still holds:

Is there a four hour max connection on domestic awards?
As does my answer

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I have often been offered domestic connections on award flights that have a far greater than 4 hour connection and where there are intervening flights.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 4:10 pm   #11
 
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As does my answer
I guess. I just booked a trip so I know its obviously possible. Any idea when the rules would or would not prohibit it. Seems like its up to the computer. I am not able to force anything using multi-city itinerary. So sometimes the website offers it and sometimes it doesn't. Can't do anything beyond that?
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Old Dec 12, 12, 4:24 pm   #12
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I guess. I just booked a trip so I know its obviously possible.
Well, then you've answered the question you were asking:

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Is there a four hour max connection on domestic awards?
Obviously, no, as both of us have discovered.

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...So sometimes the website offers it and sometimes it doesn't.
Pretty much my experience.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 5:39 pm   #13
 
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I guess. I just booked a trip so I know its obviously possible. Any idea when the rules would or would not prohibit it. Seems like its up to the computer. I am not able to force anything using multi-city itinerary. So sometimes the website offers it and sometimes it doesn't. Can't do anything beyond that?
Why are you asking in a UA thread when using SQ? Different airline different rules.
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Why are you asking in a UA thread when using SQ? Different airline different rules.
I am not asking about SQ. I was specifically asking with reference to UA miles. I just mentioned that I was contemplating using SQ miles. In the end I did use UA miles.
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For UA mileage "domestic" award, >4 hour break is considered a stopover which in this case would require extra miles.

Exception to 4 hour rules -- no flight in the 4 hour period, so next available flight is OK.
How does this figure in on international awards with domestic segments though? I have a flight where I get into ORD around dinner time, and don't depart for IAD until morning (not on the first flight). The itinerary is headed overseas, but it's a one-way so a stopover wouldn't be permitted. It ticketed fine.
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