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Old Dec 12, 12, 11:57 am   #1
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UA announces SFO-FLL nonstop

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...route/1763001/

Wow! I didn't see it coming! Give it chance to get some more competition against B6 & VX.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:02 pm   #2
 
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...route/1763001/

Wow! I didn't see it coming! Give it chance to get some more competition against B6 & VX.
It makes sense. FLL was a mini hub for sCO, the planes were/ are/ will be there, having one make a turn to SFO and vv. This should mesh well, I am guessing it will be a 737 route.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:05 pm   #3
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This one has the timing:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/south-...-starts-mar-2/

SFO-FLL: SFO 0830A FLL 0505P
FLL-SFO: FLL 0555P SFO 0915P


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It makes sense. FLL was a mini hub for sCO, the planes were/ are/ will be there, having one make a turn to SFO and vv.
The schedule shows some pretty peak aircraft utilization.
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The way that UA is adding service to FLL (coupled with those island hoppers to Bahamas and such), I'm wondering if UA is seriously considering making FLL into a focus city ?

Maybe if they could market it as "Miami area (FLL)" it could work.
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Neat. Score one for the "large network" argument in sticking with United.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:13 pm   #6
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The way that UA is adding service to FLL (coupled with those island hoppers to Bahamas and such), I'm wondering if UA is seriously considering making FLL into a focus city ?
Didn't US try that a few years ago?

It seems to typically price lower than MIA, so I'm not sure about much of a revenue premium. But if they add Caribbean connections out of there and had good timings, that may increase the revenue a bit.


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Maybe if they could market it as "Miami area (FLL)" it could work.
New York/Newark
Miami/Fort Lauderdale

LOL

But to some extent, it makes sense. PBI isn't big enough, and MIA has the AA stronghold.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:17 pm   #7
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They are probably losing Asia/Australia business to OneWorld based on AA's MIA-West Coast nonstops. This puts them in the South Florida game for those markets, especially for Australia where the schedules match up. For Asia, one would really have to connect on Star carriers to avoid spending the night in SFO. Eastbound, the schedule is rougher for connections and looks like it requires an overnight.

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This one has the timing:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/south-...-starts-mar-2/

SFO-FLL: SFO 0830A FLL 0505P
FLL-SFO: FLL 0555P SFO 0915P




The schedule shows some pretty peak aircraft utilization.
A 50 minute turn seems pretty ambitious. Not a surprise that they don't have poor on time performance!
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A response to VX launching SFO/LAX-EWR? No I guess these things take months to plan.
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This one has the timing:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/south-...-starts-mar-2/

SFO-FLL: SFO 0830A FLL 0505P
FLL-SFO: FLL 0555P SFO 0915P

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goalie-parents are really gonna like this as just made getting to their place in Palm Beach a whole lot easier
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:45 pm   #11
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A 50 minute turn seems pretty ambitious. Not a surprise that they don't have poor on time performance!
It's not clear it's the same aircraft.

But I have seen a lot of sub-1 hour turns scheduled for CO aircraft, and they often have a hard time pulling it off.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:51 pm   #12
 
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New York/Newark
Miami/Fort Lauderdale

LOL

But to some extent, it makes sense. PBI isn't big enough, and MIA has the AA stronghold.
It may make sense. FLL is right at the center of the MIA-FLL-PBI SouthFL corridor, so it's most convenient for the average traveler.

They just have to figure how to battle B6.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:58 pm   #13
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A 50 minute turn seems pretty ambitious. Not a surprise that they don't have poor on time performance!
Yeah, that's very short. I think they have wait to leave at 6:05pm instead of 5:55pm.
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Now if we can only get MIA/TPA-SFO!

UA + South Florida = Happy Sulley
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:24 pm   #15
 
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Now if we can only get MIA/TPA-SFO!

UA + South Florida = Happy Sulley
I agree, United also needs the following out of SFO:

ATL
DTW

It is like they specifically decided to not compete on the markets with American & Delta.
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