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Old Dec 3, 12, 9:45 pm   #1
 
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Fight cancelled entitlements ?

So today my flight from hnl-lax got cancelled my mum and myself were in F . We had a connecting flight in l.a that we have now missed back to Sydney.

They re-booked us on the next flight out of hnl However there is a 7 hour wait . They gave us a $20 meal coupon to use in the airport lounge and also access to the united club here in hnl.

There are a few questions I wondering because we were booked in F there was only 1 F seat left and then they stuck me in Y . Secondly our connecting flight is a 17 hour layover in l.a . We arrive at something like 5am and then depart at 10pm the same day. The agent in Honolulu said we need to go to the counter to get some hotel vouchers and meal coupons. Then the lounge attendants said we don't get any hotel vouchers because its not overnight.

So I'm wondering what to do firstly with the Y flight they downgraded me to and also where to go to get these hotel coupons and I need to know if we are entitled to them. Also what hotels does united use .

Thanks heaps .
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Old Dec 3, 12, 9:54 pm   #2
 
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Hawaiian flies nonstop to SYD tomorrow noon and its wide open in F & J. I'd sure as hell be on that flight.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 9:56 pm   #3
 
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Hawaiian flies nonstop to SYD tomorrow noon and its wide open in F & J. I'd sure as hell be on that flight.
likewise, can't you ask for (or demand) Air NZ? It leaves at 9:35 tonight (flight #9 connecting to #101) and has availability in both Y and C (plus it's a Star Alliance partner).
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I have tried but this is a award ticket with us airways they keep telling me they biting the bullet here .

Am I still entitled to the AirNZ flight ..
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:08 pm   #5
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I have tried but this is a award ticket with us airways they keep telling me they biting the bullet here .

Am I still entitled to the AirNZ flight ..
Yes, and it's UA's cancellation, so UA should do the rebook/reissue.

Are you in the United Club? They should be able to do it.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:09 pm   #6
 
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Why bother with a connection when there's an OA nonstop?
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:10 pm   #7
 
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What's the reason for cancellation? If it's their fault, I think they should be on the hook for this. What cabin was your LAX-SYD booked in?

Also, if they insist that going out of LA on UA tomorrow night is the only option, and you're already in Y as it is, there's no reason they can't fly you out tomorrow and put you up in a hotel here tonight.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:10 pm   #8
 
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I have tried but this is a award ticket with us airways they keep telling me they biting the bullet here .

Am I still entitled to the AirNZ flight ..
Google and quote to UA agent: star alliance endorsement waiver, rule 240. UA can absolutely take control in this situation, even with underlying US ticket stock.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:15 pm   #9
 
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Yes, and it's UA's cancellation, so UA should do the rebook/reissue.

Are you in the United Club? They should be able to do it.
I'm with Channa on this - you might have to be insistent. While I can see why they wouldn't want to put you on Hawaiian or JetStar (even though they should in my opinion), remind them that the Air NZ option is Star Alliance and is "only" 7 hours from the original departure time. (It gets to syd at 8:30am)
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:15 pm   #10
 
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Yes, and it's UA's cancellation, so UA should do the rebook/reissue.

Are you in the United Club? They should be able to do it.

Yes I'm currently in the united club now waiting for this flight in 3 hours.

It is united fault about the mechanical problem of the aircraft . I wouldn't mind but I'm in Y I would love a direct flight . My whole trip is in business class.

I did google the star alliance endorsement waiver, rule 240 only comes up with AA.com
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:23 pm   #11
 
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I always push for the the most direct in these situation even if its on a non *A carrier and in Y. Sometimes you need to call the other carrier or show the agents the website to convince them it's available.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:24 pm   #12
 
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Yes I'm currently in the united club now waiting for this flight in 3 hours.

It is united fault about the mechanical problem of the aircraft . I wouldn't mind but I'm in Y I would love a direct flight . My whole trip is in business class.

I did google the star alliance endorsement waiver, rule 240 only comes up with AA.com
Mechanical... Wow, they REALLY tried to pull one over on you. They basically need to get you out on the next available flight. Polite, but firm insistence my friend.
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:26 pm   #13
 
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likewise, can't you ask for (or demand) Air NZ? It leaves at 9:35 tonight (flight #9 connecting to #101) and has availability in both Y and C (plus it's a Star Alliance partner).

They saying not available in the united club
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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:26 pm   #14
 
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I always push for the the most direct in these situation even if its on a non *A carrier and in Y. Sometimes you need to call the other carrier or show the agents the website to convince them it's available.
As best as I can tell, the non-stops aren't until tomorrow, JetStar at 8:15am and Hawaiian at 11:50. At least the NZ option leaves tonight, and once in AKL, there's plenty of options to SYD should a further problem arise.

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They saying not available in the united club
That's not what I see. C or D has availability.

NZ 9 0 HNL
12/03/12 9:35 PM AKL
12/05/12 5:50 AM 763
M,F,Sa
84% / 18m C4 D4 Z0 J0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S7 G0 X0 K0 P0

NZ 101 0 AKL
12/05/12 7:00 AM SYD
12/05/12 8:30 AM 763
M,T,W,Th,F,Sa
89% / 10m C4 D4 Z4 J4 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 T0 L0 S0 G0 X0 K0 P0

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Old Dec 3, 12, 10:34 pm   #15
 
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I'm sure agent is only looking for award inventory,

I'd push for HA first tomorrow. A nice ride.

Be firm. Rules on your side.

http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/...0-still-rules/

http://www.starallianceemployees.com...cketing.1.html

http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index...LIANCE-ENDORSE

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