I wonder how much additional flying will be outsourced to regionals. As it is, seems most domestic flights at IAD/ORD are Express with mainline flying few and far between.
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I just got notification that this thing was approved by both CO and UA MECs. I'm on a very short layover (and nothing in the TA about fixing that) so I just did a quick look at the summary.
I have to say that it doesn't look good at all. Scope is weak, there are more givebacks than improvements, and the pay increases are an insult. I was an Airbus captain when we got the cuts in '03 and '04. The 'Bus took the largest % hit-48%. Now as a 757/767 captain, I'm seeing the smallest raise. Maybe since the 75s are going away and the 320/737 will be the same pay, I'll only loose seniority. Never thought I'd be looking kindly upon the lesser of two evils.
The scope is #1 for me even though I'll be gone before the effects are felt among the pilots, but I can't in good conscience vote in favor of it. Same with retirement, insurance, and work rules. Pay is also a slap in the face.
I'm going to try and keep an open mind though, and listen to our MEC try and pitch this, but I suspect I'll be watching them trying to put lipstick on a pig.
More to follow, I'm sure.
FAB
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The scope is #1 for me even though I'll be gone before the effects are felt among the pilots, but I can't in good conscience vote in favor of it. Same with retirement, insurance, and work rules.
That's smart, without scope you don't own the work so you could have otherwise great TA (pay, benefits, etc) but if the work isn't protected nothing really matters.
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Originally Posted by freshairborne
I was an Airbus captain when we got the cuts in '03 and '04. The 'Bus took the largest % hit-48%. Now as a 757/767 captain, I'm seeing the smallest raise.
True, but had you stayed on the bus, the 320s and the 319s got the biggest raises. Because you moved up on equipment to a higher paying bird (basicly a voluntary promotion to equipent that paid more and tok a smaller relativecut) is why the discrapancy. Had you stayed on the equipment that took the biggest cut, you would be getting the biggest (relative, not absolute) raise. Instead you moved up to a different job that pad more and took a smaller relative cut.
The raises are rates based on metal currently bid by you to fly, not based on metal you flew on the effective date of your current (old) recessionary contract.
Noone can fault you for wanting to move up equipment, but in so doing, you moved to that equipment pay scale, not your previous equipment pay scale, which on this TA got a larger increase, in line with the larger cut it took.
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I'm not sure there is a strong consensus either way based off the totality of the comments in the pilots forum. I think the anti-agreement folks are more vocal and active in that forum too...
